1. Where next? In case you are wondering where I'm going, after a little research I'm going to try *Nirvana*. The do not have multi-level projects, not multi-level task, but I'm going to see if I can live with that...
2. Suggestion My parting suggestion for the MLO team is that someone in their organisation should *build a new application *(either on Windows or possibly a Web-based application) that really is an application! i.e. Something does not try to be all things to all people. Something that comes with a powerful pre-defined '*dashboard' *involving very few clicks to change filtering. This new application could *use the same database* as MLO windows (and the mobile apps). And it could even be sold as a separate product. I would dumb down the interface to the basics so as to lower the learning curve for time-stressed mainstream people, but it have an expert mode where all the less used fields suddenly appears. But for goodness sakes please can we have a field for List. J On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 2:38:41 PM UTC+1, John . Smith wrote: > > > > I don't have time to read this whole thread - my apologies - but I thought > I'd add my tuppence worth here, because personally I am in the process of > *leaving > MLO*. > > > I originally bought MLO to save me time. I'm pretty sure it hasn't. I have > been on MLO for over a year and it has absorbed countless hour of my life. > > Core problems > > 1. The learning curve is too steep. > We Old Timers all forget what it was like now but MLO was a nightmare to > learn. The documentation dry and hard to digest. And in accurate. And > missing stuff. Frankly as a modern consumer product it is > all-over-the-place. > This will put off most new users, unless they are hardcore geeks/techies. > Honestly I dont think any normal, time-poor business user would tolerate > MLO, particularly the complexity and counter-intuitiveness of the Windows > interface. > > (ASIDE: MLO need to do usability trials on the Windows interface with new > users and see what happens!) > > But there are so many good things about MLO it's hard to resist. e.g. > multi-level hierarchies that are intuitive, extreme ease of converting an > item between task and project, user-defined hotkeys for everything in > sight, user-defined rule-based formatting, sophisticated user-configurable > advanced filtering, lots of fields (flags, tags, importance, urgency, start > date as well as due date, goals, due date)... even multi line editing. > Sounds BRILLIANT, right? > > Wrong. > > 2. It never got me what I wanted > I originally bought MLO because it was said to be "the task manager to go > to after you've tried all the others". It was said to be a "task management > *platform*" that lets you design your own way of working - your own "task > management *application*" if you will. > And I must have tried about 10 completely different ways of working, with > flags doing stuff and tags doing stuff, folders doing stuff... but I was > NEVER HAPPY with any of them. > > My greatest problem was finding a good way to move tasks & projects from > GTD list to GTD list. (i.e. Inbox / Active / Someday / Waiting etc.) > Every single thing I tried has horrible unintended consequences. > > My final conclusion was that the MLO needs a separate database field for > "List", but it's pretty clear that that's never going to happen. > > But there are other problems too. > > Even now, it's very, VERY easy to get slightly confused. Everything seems > to take *too many clicks*. > Other task management applications have a sort of pre-built dashboard with > everything you need to filter one just 1 (or sometimes 2) clicks away. > > For example: "Show me all my Person (area of life) Active tasks that are > starred" > ==> How many clicks?! > > "Now change it to Work area of life" > ==> How many clicks? > > "Now stay in Work area of life, but remove starred filter, and instead > show me tagged '@Errands' that are Someday" > ==> How many clicks? > > It seems to me that unless you have an entire tab (work area) set up just > for the view you want, it's always a LOT of clicks. But if you have say 15 > Context-tags, you cant possibly have a tab for each multiplied by the > number of work areas - that would be INSANE... not to mention v difficult > to navigate. > > So I'm off. Just thought I'd say why... > > J > > > On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 at 9:44:29 AM UTC, Darius wrote: >> >> I've checked a MLO roadmap and I must say I don't see a good future for >> MLO . MLO is doing a big mistake: no web app or API for MLO cloud, there is >> even no basic support for web planned . Now MLO is just not a true multi OS >> device. >> >> I've have 3 new machines and on every of them I cannot use MLO. One is >> Raspberry PI, one is laptop with Ubuntu, one is VMware with Lubuntu for my >> TV ( I have Windows PC and Galaxy note which I am using fine with MLO) . I >> know, this is Linux and Linux is not supported, but the problem is bigger: >> >> Now we have Windows RT released. How to use MLO? >> As in my example I have some machines with Linux, how to use MLO? >> If windows 8 fails, and some people will turn to Mac/Linux, what to do? >> If I bought chrome book, how to use MLO? >> >> In short I don't think the developement for all the OS will be fast >> enough without any web app... >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/5882ffd9-6317-43bf-8334-09286a8d6556%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
