I imagine it would run chron at midnight however I changed the time on my system clock. But I don't want to do that, both because I use my clock and because I have other things where the chron is set for 3am and changing the system clock would mess *those* up (as well as Google calendar). ;) So that's not a solution I'd use.
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Wallace Gilbraith <gilbra...@gmail.com> wrote: > What happens if you reset your system clock? > > > - sent from my phone, please excuse brevity - > > - always mail me at h...@gilbraith.co.uk - > > Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=11687> > On 6 Jan 2018, at 10:20, Venessa G <troi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Wow, Dwight, thanks so much for the detailed reply! I am going to have to >> come back when my mind is a bit more fresh and play around with it! I >> haven't done anything with advanced filters as yet. I have had MLO for a >> week now and it took several days for me to get my head around how the >> basic components work (particularly Contexts; I ended up having to go back >> in and change Contexts on tasks because I didn't initially understand how >> they worked). >> >> I'll be honest and say that the time seems confusing, but it's also >> almost 2am, so I'm not exactly at the top of my game! lol I will come back >> and re-read though. >> >> Ultimately, what I've done at this point, is change some of the hours of >> the Contexts (particularly the Weekly ones) to not display from midnight to >> 6am. That's helped a lot. I do also admit that when the due date turns red, >> it makes me anxious... So that's also a big reason why being able to change >> the chron time from midnight to something later would be useful. >> >> Okay, heading to bed, but I wanted to take a second to thank you very >> much for such a helpful post and I promise I will come back to it when I >> can grok it better :) >> >> Venessa >> >> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 12:59:22 AM UTC-5, Dwight wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:00:29 AM UTC-5, Venessa G wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm on the trial and have found that MLO seems to work really well with >>>> the way I think and go about my day, with just a few exceptions. Most I >>>> either learned to work within or I work around. But I'm really hoping this >>>> one can be changed, rather than endured. >>>> >>>> I often work very late, sometimes after midnight. It's disconcerting >>>> when I've got my list down to a couple things and then suddenly it's >>>> populated with all the tasks for the next morning. Aside from going in and >>>> changing all the time settings for the contexts so that there is nothing >>>> between midnight and, say 6am (which could then mess up what I *am* working >>>> on in the moment), is there any way to have the day reset at a time not >>>> midnight? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, Vanessa and Richard, apologies for the long answer but this is >>> actually a complex subject. MLO has incredible power but a lot of that >>> power is concentrated in the "advanced filter" section, where you can >>> define a set of rules that produced a list of selected tasks that exactly >>> matches what you need to see right now. So, no, you cannot change what time >>> midnight happens but you can create a task list which excludes today's >>> tasks until 6am by setting up the appropriate filters. >>> >>> First, I want to check a couple of assumptions. I assume that a task >>> that was on your list yesterday and didn't get completed should still be on >>> the list today. Same for tasks that were on the list the day before >>> yesterday and didn't get completed. And so on. Also, from midnight to six, >>> while you are not wanting to see the new day's tasks (yet), I am assuming >>> that if there's a task explicitly coded to start at 3am you want it to show >>> up on your list at 3am and not wait till 6am with the rest of the day's >>> tasks. If either of these assumptions is wrong then my solution won'e work. >>> Please let me know! >>> >>> So, the key to working with advanced filters is to forget about issues >>> like what time it is and how tired you are and just describe what tasks you >>> want to see. State it in terms like I want to see every task where_____, >>> and fill in the blank with a list of conditions. Usually the conditions >>> describe characteristics of each task that determine if it should be >>> displayed. Sometimes it includes characteristice of the tasks's parent or >>> the task's top-level parent. It does not include the time, the date, the >>> day of the week, or your horoscope. The advanced filter knows about >>> concepts like now(current date and time), today (current date at midnight) >>> and tomorrow (current date plus one at midnight.), but they have to be used >>> in testing against defined characteristics of the task. >>> >>> We should also do some background on date/time formats and midnight. A >>> date/time value is expressed as a floating-point decimal number, where the >>> whole number part is the number of days since the start of the calendar >>> scheme, and the fractional part is the time. 0.5 is noon (half way through >>> the day) 0.25 is 6am (a quarter of the way through the day) and 0.0007 is >>> one minute past midnight. Also, with floating point numbers you never want >>> to test for equality: 0.500000000000 and 0.499999999999 are different by >>> only one tenth of a microsecond but they are NOT equal. So you should never >>> test for a time = noon, better to test for a time later than 11:59 and >>> before 12:01. >>> >>> Enough background, let's design a filter. We need to come up with a >>> set of rules which produce the correct result both before and after >>> midnight and before and after 6am. >>> >>> The first challenge is that we want to hide today's new tasks for the >>> first six hours of the day. So the first part of our filter is, do not show >>> a task until it is six hours old, or StartDateTime is before now-(6/24). A >>> minute after midnight, the day's tasks are only one minute old, not old >>> enough, so they are hidden. Six hours later they become old enough and they >>> appear. >>> >>> This filter by itself would delay every task's appearance for six hours, >>> so if a task starts 4am it would not appear until 10am, six hours later. We >>> only want this six hour delay for tasks that start at midnight, so we need >>> an additional filter to say that if the start time has already passed and >>> the start time is after 12:01 then show the task. Or, StartDateTime is >>> after today 00:01 and StartDateTime is before now. >>> >>> One more part of the filter: with what we have so far, if a task starts >>> 10pm, the next day from midnight to 04:00 it will be hidden, because it is >>> not after midnight and it is not six hours old. We need another filter to >>> say that tasks from yesterday and earlier are also shown. The filter is >>> StartDateTime is before today. >>> >>> The final filter is ((StartDateTime before NOW-4H) OR ((StartDateTime >>> after TODAY 00:01) AND (StartDateTime before NOW)) OR (StartDateTime before >>> Today)) >>> >>> If you have already learned how to add a filter to an existing view, >>> then you have everything you need, good luck, and please let us know how it >>> works out. If you don't know how to manage advanced filters, no [problem, >>> just write back and tell us what the view name is of the view you are >>> looking at when, at midnight, the next day's tasks put in their unwelcome >>> midnight appearance. I will write back with simple >>> step-by-step instructions. >>> >>> -Dwight >>> >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/mylifeorganized/qU-lQykU55A/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/mylifeorganized/7e9b15d2-766d-4560-b8ae-75f250747856%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/7e9b15d2-766d-4560-b8ae-75f250747856%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/CAMHPcSMG1RC_uD%2BENk3yoSUrkxuPgCFY-AqbbVyT-YGvy17GQA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
