Just answering the big issue for now, which is obviouse to me. I don't need a popup warning about no sync. There is a place I tap to sync, and it needs to indicate first if a sync has not been done yet. This is not hard to figure out that the same feature is critical even if it is a cloud sync. We cannot assume that our local device is syncing just because we haven't detected any problem yet with internet connectivity.
<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:46 AM Dwight <m...@dwightarthur.us> wrote: > > Ying Dong, MG et al, there are some difficult design tradeoffs in > creating an automatic synch between devices that have an intermittent > connection. I think if you work out how you would like these tradeoffs > resolved, and the people following this request agree, you might make it > easier and perhaps more likely for the developers to try to build it. > > The big issue is, when synch fails to lack of connectivity, do you tell > anyone? This is a bigger issue with wifi than cloud. With cloud, if there's > a collectivity issue, it most likely means that my device has lost its > internet connection. Second most likely, the cloud server is down. Here's > the thing: if your phone has lost connectivity you will most certainly > notice without MLO having to tell you. And if the server is down MLO people > will get alarms. So the problem will be fixed and it's not up to MLO. Wifi > sync only works if both devices are present and connected at the same time; > if there's an issue with that MLO is very possibly the only one who cares, > so it's up to MLO to take action to get it resolved. > > Consider this: A busy executive has a hard day at work, completing many > tasks and marking them done on her work desktop, as well as scheduling new > tasks. End of the day, on the train home she goes to review todays overdue > tasks and plan for tomorrow and she discovers that she has yesterday's > data, there were no syncs today. Maybe this morning her phone got a new IP > address from DHCP and all day the desktop was trying to send updates to the > old address. This is clearly unacceptable so we add an alarm when sync > fails. Our exec leaves work, goes to the train, no more connectivity to > work LAN. Every 5 minutes (or so) the phone tries to sync and fails. Which > means every 5 minutes or so the alarm goes off. Very, very annoying. So we > change it: alarm if no sync once every 8 hours. All is fine until 3am when > the phone beside the bed wakes everybody up because there has been no sync. > How should this be handled? > > Another issue: today each device knows who to sync with because the user > types in all the IP addresses. Nick has already mentioned the difficulties > with this issue. So if IP addresses change (relocation, DHCP, etc) does the > user have to notice and type it in before MLO will resume sync? Or will MLO > crawl the LAN looking for other MLO instances with which to sync? What > happens if the LAN has a few different people each using their own copy of > MLO? > > On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 3:41:14 PM UTC-4, imajeff wrote: >> >> You need those checks if it's not automatic. Trust me I'm a software >> engineer. If server connection is not available, don't sync. >> >> Cloud sync is not as simple as you think. That's why it costs more to >> keep it working >> >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 09:11 Nick Clark <nick....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> As you suggest it is not as simple as just adding a timer to initiate >>> the sync. The mobile device would need to check if there is a network >>> connection to a PC with MLO installed. What if the PC or mistaking device >>> had a different IP address to the last time it connected, a likely >>> situation if used on a corporate network using DHCP for address allocation? >>> What if more than one instance of a PC with MLO installed is found - which >>> to use? >>> >>> By contrast the cloud sync is simple - if there is an internet >>> connection it can sync. >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MyLifeOrganized" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/02073ba2-1696-4a5a-b656-af7e371342bb%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/02073ba2-1696-4a5a-b656-af7e371342bb%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- "It is not what I believe that will make-or-break; It is what I'm doing about it." --Jefferson Smith <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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