2011/10/21 Martin Renold <[email protected]> > hi David > > Apologies for the late response :-) > About your mails from March and April: > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 09:34:53PM +0100, David REVOY wrote: > > But if I try to see the more difficult way ( and of course the > > interresting way , niark, niark ) : I think future Mypaint should > > have at first start a strong default group only ( not limited by a > > number , even long as in the 0.6 time , and simple without 'header > > title of group' when alone at install , clean ) . This default > > brushset will surely look better with visual icons ( as Tanda > > brushset or a version of my brushset ). I can work on it doing > > something standard for Mypaint. > > This will make mypaint smaller to download ( ok, it's not a problem > > actually , I know ) , and I can understand an user could be unhappy > > to see displayed my pseudo when he open his software :) That's just > > not the right place imo, even if it's cool for me in a way. > > I agree that calling brushsets by the author's name is very lazy and bad > style for a default brush collection. For me it's a maintainence problem, > I > don't feel up to the task to pick good defaults and also maintain them as a > nice collection. If you want to make a real "default" group, please do so! > Authors name is unuseless nowadays, we have lot of brushes and it is better for the user to have simply "brushes". But we have a problem. the Duplicates. It is really difficult to decide wich preset is better. For example "pencils" we have A LOT of pencils presets and decide who is the right for users is very "subjetive" or "relative" . Also experienced users are used to certain presets, so i don´t know which is the best solution :S .
> > From my point of view, a "big" default group (as in the good old days :-) > could work well, if complemented by other groups. Ideally, the other > groups > would be hidden by default (if we had the GUI) except maybe for the > "Favourites" group. Other oppinions? > I don´t like this idea ,i don´t think hide brushes is the solution. and mixing them is really complex. The best choice will be to reorder ALL the brushes by cathegories, no matter who was the creator. (pencils, charcoals, watercolors, oils,) and then make a complete set of new icons. and this is lot of work for sure. Also we have the problem to become in a new Corel Painter with 400 brushes. no way! > > > And I love this new page , here poeple can download the personnal > > kit after installation of Mypaint ; Deevad / Ramon / Tanda / Ico-d'Y > > / Experimental have a better place here I think than bundled by > > default. > > I'm not so sure about shipping only a single brush group. Downloading > brushsets is still too much hassle. And I also want it to be possible to > discover most brush engine features easily (eg. the experimental category). > We have very good collections , for more experienced users. i find this way good. again to make a Default is really complex. but we could do it gathering all the resources and see their behaviour and order by his natural behaviour. > > > If you agree with a default 'brushkit' , > > I do. But I think I disagree about removing all the diverse brushes we get > from the Ramon / Tanda / Ico set at this point, without replacement. It > would be okay with me to hide them by default (but we don't have the GUI > for > that right now). > Yes some people uses Deevad, some people uses Tanda or Ico, some people uses mines and most of them uses mixes. if we remove some brushes , this could complicate the task. > > > I would like on the top menu 'Brush' of Mypaint ; with 'import brush' > > (under or up ) a link to open internet browser direclty to the good wiki > > page (http://wiki.mypaint.info/Brush_Packages ) with various brush kit ( > > in this wikipage a how-to on the top install ). > > That is a good idea, either way. > > > Of course, I have similar ideas for 'papers /backgrounds' > > papers are important too. we have again here a bit of unordered stuff. :S . Tanda papers (Tanda made a superb work on papers)are small for big sizes painting. but Highres papers are too big for small sizes. > Yes. Code to manage them is missing, of course. I think I would prefer > something that can directly download from within MyPaint, without temporary > saving a file via browser. Many average PC users just don't figure this > out, and even expert users will often not bother with that. > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 04:21:45PM +0200, David REVOY wrote: > > I was experimenting on my side to try to create a "default brush > > kit" to Mypaint and use group to paint, here is a screenshot of one > > of my experimental test : > > http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7729/screenshotnet.jpg > > But it's finally harder to find a brush, and pressing 'shift' to > > display multi groups is still something for advanced users. > > It would have to be done in a single group, I think. If you want subgroups, > you can have a all-in-one group too so users don't have to press shift, > however having the same brush in multiple groups tends to confuse users. > > > So, keeping artist group is something easier ( as in 8.0, 9.0 and > > actual Git ; 'Deevad' 'Ramón' , 'Tanda' ). > > And surely a good choice for 1.0. > > I agree, this is the easy way :-) but maybe not the best. > > -- > Martin Renold > > _______________________________________________ > Mypaint-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/mypaint-discuss > -- _______________________________________ Ramón Miranda www.ramonmiranda.com GPS project http://code.google.com/p/gps-gimp-paint-studio/
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