First off I want to thank anyone who helps. I know helping new people trying to install can be a pain but I'll try and cooperate. I installed Redhat 7.0 with the mySQL packages. I read that there were patches for the mySQL install on Redhat so I downloaded the RPM for the version I had mysqlclient9-3.23.22-3.i386.rpm and it installed fine. It still didn't solve the problem. I created the database with mysql_install_db and that went fine. When I try and start the server with safe_mysql & I get.. Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql 010606 09:59:25 mysqld ended ... so it dies immediately. I check the /var/lib/mysql/mymachine.name.err file (real host name appears, not mymachine.name) and see 010606 09:59:25 mysqld started 010606 9:59:25 /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13) 010606 09:59:25 mysqld ended so I check the defaults of mysqld with --help and see, basedir: /usr/ datadir: /var/lib/mysql/ <snip> Unix socket: /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock so it should be looking for /var/lib/mysql/./mysql/host.frm # ls /var/lib/mysql/./mysql/host.frm /var/lib/mysql/./mysql/host.frm so it seems to be looking in the right place AND the file exists. So I try this.. # /usr/libexec/mysqld Fatal error: Please read "Security" section of the manual to find out how to run mysqld as root! 010606 10:15:41 Aborting So I drop back to a regular user and get... $ /usr/libexec/mysqld /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't change dir to '/var/lib/mysql/' (Errcode: 13) 010606 10:15:52 Aborting is this a permissions problem on that directory? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php