It's not much, but the dataset is definitely larger than your buffer pool. You 
could try this query to show how much data+index is in innodb: SELECT 
SUM(data_length+index_length) as data size FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES WHERE 
ENGINE='InnoDB';  =
Then SET GLOBAL buffer_pool_size= <that number>

I don't have a much experience running mysql on windows; I think much more time 
is spent optimizing the server performance on linux based systems rather than 
windows.


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Thompson [mailto:patrick.thomp...@channelintelligence.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 2:24 PM
To: Gavin Towey; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: mySql versus Sql Server performance

Here's the innodb stuff - although the largest data set I've used in the stats 
run is around 20MB, which doesn't seem like much to me.

'innodb_adaptive_hash_index', 'ON'
'innodb_additional_mem_pool_size', '2097152'
'innodb_autoextend_increment', '8'
'innodb_autoinc_lock_mode', '1'
'innodb_buffer_pool_size', '49283072'
'innodb_checksums', 'ON'
'innodb_commit_concurrency', '0'
'innodb_concurrency_tickets', '500'
'innodb_data_file_path', 'ibdata1:10M:autoextend'
'innodb_data_home_dir', 'C:\MySQL Datafiles\'
'innodb_doublewrite', 'ON'
'innodb_fast_shutdown', '1'
'innodb_file_io_threads', '4'
'innodb_file_per_table', 'OFF'
'innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit', '1'
'innodb_flush_method', ''
'innodb_force_recovery', '0'
'innodb_lock_wait_timeout', '50'
'innodb_locks_unsafe_for_binlog', 'OFF'
'innodb_log_buffer_size', '1048576'
'innodb_log_file_size', '25165824'
'innodb_log_files_in_group', '2'
'innodb_log_group_home_dir', '.\'
'innodb_max_dirty_pages_pct', '90'
'innodb_max_purge_lag', '0'
'innodb_mirrored_log_groups', '1'
'innodb_open_files', '300'
'innodb_rollback_on_timeout', 'OFF'
'innodb_stats_on_metadata', 'ON'
'innodb_support_xa', 'ON'
'innodb_sync_spin_loops', '20'
'innodb_table_locks', 'ON'
'innodb_thread_concurrency', '8'
'innodb_thread_sleep_delay', '10000'
'innodb_use_legacy_cardinality_algorithm', 'ON'

Patrick
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin Towey [mailto:gto...@ffn.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 4:50 PM
To: Patrick Thompson; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: [SPAM] RE: mySql versus Sql Server performance
Importance: Low

So it's a primary key lookup.  That's a rather large primary key though, it's 
going to bloat the table size since innodb in mysql uses clustered indexes.

So the explain plan and table structure look pretty straightforward.  It is 
using the index to satisfy the query.  The next question is what does the 
server memory configuration look like?

SHOW GLOBAL VARIABLES LIKE 'innodb%';

In particular innodb_buffer_pool defines the global set of memory where data 
and indexes from your table are cached.  Mysql could be showing slower 
performance if it is getting cache misses from the buffer pool and is being 
forced to read from disk excessively.

On dedicated mysql servers, the buffer pool should be about 80% of available 
RAM.  The default value is 8M which is pretty much unusable except for trivial 
cases.


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Thompson [mailto:patrick.thomp...@channelintelligence.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 12:31 PM
To: Gavin Towey; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: mySql versus Sql Server performance

Query:

SELECT *
        FROM Item
        WHERE CollectionID = 'a0d3937b-f5a8-0640-dec8-bdd60f7f4775' AND 
ExternalID = 'fred1'

Explain Extended:

select '17304' AS `ID`,'fred1' AS 
`ExternalID`,'a0d3937b-f5a8-0640-dec8-bdd60f7f4775' AS `CollectionID`,NULL AS 
`ItemTypeVersion`,'<Item 
xmlns="http://cipl.codeplex.com/CIPlItem1.xsd";><Valid>1</Valid><ItemStatus>100</ItemStatus><ExternalID>fred1</ExternalID><ModifiedDate>2010-10-25T15:06:55.7188551-04:00</ModifiedDate><PersonType
 
xmlns="http://cipl.codeplex.com/CIPlOther1.xsd";><Address><USAddressType><City><String>Celebration
 
1</String></City><Country><String>USA</String></Country><State><String>FL</String></State><Street><String>1170
 Celebration blvd 
1</String></Street><Zip><Int32>34748</Int32></Zip></USAddressType></Address><AlternateAddresses
 Count="2"><USAddressType><City><String>Celebration 
1</String></City><Country><String>USA</String></Country><State><String>FL</String></State><Street><String>1170
 Celebration blvd 
1</String></Street><Zip><Int32>34748</Int32></Zip></USAddressType><USAddressType><City><String>Seattle
 1</String></City><Country><String>USA</String></Country><PhoneNumbers 
Count="2"><PhoneNumberType><AreaCode><Int32>206</Int32></AreaCode><Number><Int32>7819281</Int32></Number><Tags
 Count="1"><String>never answered 
1</String></Tags></PhoneNumberType><PhoneNumberType><AreaCode><Int32>206</Int32></AreaCode><Number><Int32>9991971</Int32></Number><Tags
 Count="1"><String>cell 
1</String></Tags></PhoneNumberType></PhoneNumbers><State><String>WA</String></State><Street><String>12070
 Lakeside pl 
1</String></Street><Zip><Int32>98126</Int32></Zip></USAddressType></AlternateAddresses><CreateDate><DateTime>2010-10-25T15:06:55.7168549-04:00</DateTime></CreateDate><Name><String>fred1</String></Name><Tags
 
Count="4"><String>first</String><String>second</String><String>third</String><String>1</String></Tags></PersonType></Item>'
 AS `ObjectText`,'2010-10-25 15:06:55' AS `EnteredDate`,'2010-10-25 15:06:55' 
AS `LastModDate` from `ciplitemwell0404`.`item` where 
(('a0d3937b-f5a8-0640-dec8-bdd60f7f4775' = 
'a0d3937b-f5a8-0640-dec8-bdd60f7f4775') and ('fred1' = 'fred1'))

Explain:

1, 'SIMPLE', 'Item', 'const', 'PRIMARY,ItemsByID', 'PRIMARY', '889', 
'const,const', 1, ''


Table definition:

CREATE TABLE  `ciplitemwell0404`.`item` (
  `ID` bigint(20) unsigned NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
  `ExternalID` varchar(255) CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT NULL DEFAULT '',
  `CollectionID` varchar(40) CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT NULL,
  `ItemTypeVersion` varchar(255) CHARACTER SET utf8 DEFAULT NULL,
  `ObjectText` longtext NOT NULL,
  `EnteredDate` datetime NOT NULL,
  `LastModDate` datetime NOT NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY (`CollectionID`,`ExternalID`),
  UNIQUE KEY `ID` (`ID`),
  KEY `ItemsByID` (`CollectionID`,`ID`) USING BTREE
) ENGINE=InnoDB AUTO_INCREMENT=29687 DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;


This is just the retrieve side - which seems to be around 1.5 times slower than 
the equivalent Sql Server numbers.

The update is much slower - 3 to 5 times slower depending on the record size. 
It makes sense to me to focus on the retrieve, maybe the update is just a 
reflection of the same problems.


Patrick
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin Towey [mailto:gto...@ffn.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 2:00 PM
To: Patrick Thompson; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: mySql versus Sql Server performance

MySQL and most other databases require adjustment of server settings, and 
especially of table structures and indexes to achieve the best performance 
possible.

If you haven't examined index usage for the queries you're running, or adjusted 
server memory settings from defaults, then it's no surprise you would get poor 
performance.

I don't have the inclination to dig through your code; however, if you extract 
the actual queries you are running, then run EXPLAIN <query>; that will show 
how it's using indexes.  You can put that information here, along with the SHOW 
CREATE TABLE <table> \G output for all tables involved, and someone here should 
be able to help diagnose why the queries might be slow.

Regards,
Gavin Towey


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Thompson [mailto:patrick.thomp...@channelintelligence.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:38 AM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: mySql versus Sql Server performance

I am running an open source project that provides an abstraction layer over a 
number of different stores. I am puzzled by performance numbers I am seeing 
between mysql and sql server - a brief discussion is available here

http://cipl.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Data%20Provider%20Comparison

The statistics were generated using mySql 5.1 and Sql Server 2008 on a machine 
with the following specs:

OS Name             Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
System Model   HP Compaq nc8430 (RB554UT#ABA)
Processor            Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GHz, 2000 Mhz, 
2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)             4.00 GB
Total Virtual Memory     6.75 GB
Page File Space 3.37 GB
Disk 120GB SSD with 22GB available

If this isn't the right place to ask this question, can someone point me to 
somewhere that is.

Thanks


Patrick
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