Rance,
Friday, March 22, 2002, 4:53:41 PM, you wrote:

RH> here goes (not that it will give you any better information than I did 
RH> already but since you asked...)

RH> <<<exerpt from .err file follows>>>
RH> 020318  14:30:48   mysqld started
RH> 020318  14:30:49   /usr/libexec/mysqld: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
RH> 020318  14:30:49   mysqld ended
RH> <<<exerpt from .err file ended>>>

RH> because I have about 18 similar blocks in my .err file for each time I tried 
RH> to start the server to see if I fixed the problem coping the entire .err 
RH> file didnt make any sense.

RH> Again, this is after running the mysql_install_db and verifing that 
RH> permissions to the files created by mysql_install_db are correct.

RH> --skip-grant-tables will allow the server to start, but a normal start is 
RH> impossible

Rance, are you sure that table 'host' really exists?
Take a look at mysql datadir if there are the grant tables like
'host.frm', 'host.MYD', 'host.MYI'.

RH> Rance





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