At 02:20 AM 3/26/2002 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Here is what the MadProfessor needs to do: > >1. Contact you local Oracle Marketing Rep. He will set >you straight on licensing and pricing. > >2. Go read the Oracle9iAS Data Sheet. Notice that they >use Apache and throw in couple of their own candy >wrappers called "mods". > >Oracle9iAS does not include the Oracle Database. And oh >yes, Wireless & Personalization enablement is not >included. That is extra! > >I think the CD ROM is free! Tongue in cheek.
Usually there is a media charge so I don't think the CD ROM is free either! ;o) >John Wubbel >John Wubbel Consulting > > Being a Oracle Database Admin myself, I have to say that MySQL is far > > better, it is just as fast when configured right, just as flexiable when > > the scripting is done right and the real icing on the cake is it is > > HONESTLY, TRUTHFULLY, TOTALLY FREE! > > > > If I could I would make the place where I work switch over, I am a great > > lover of Open Source, forget ASP, IIS, and all the other Micro$oft > > gimmics that are opperable on one platform, these are just cheap stunt > > marketing tools. Granted Oracle is available on multiple platforms. But > > take it from me, once you have had a serious look at Oracle and you find > > you have to set memory allocation after memory allocation for every > > little piece of the DB, you soon lose the desire to set up additional > > databases. > > > > As I said, I do this for a living, and if the MySQL market was as big > > (moneywise) I would leave the Oracle realm in a heart beat. > > > > Besides, I recently read an article on a benchmark test of several of > > the top leading databases conducted by Zif Davis, you know that large > > computer magazine corp, those guys do not bow down to M$, Oracle or any > > of the other big names, they report the facts as they find them, > > regardless of the name. > > > > Read more about this here: > > http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s=708&a=23115,00.asp > > > > So to be honest, I (again let me point out that I KNOW what I am talking > > about) see little or NO danger for MySQL v's Oracle, and as I just read > > in a email sent to this list, Oracle chances is pricing repeatedly one > > moment it was per seat, then it was per processing power of the system > > and the story goes on. > > > > Oracle is NOT, nor will it be FREE any time soon, and I am talking > > YEARS! > > > > Regards, > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Charles McGrotty > > Intelliweb Technologies, > > > > You know you want IT? > > Visit Intelliweb Technologies for > > all your hosting requirements. > > > > http://www.intelliwebtech.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Francesca Shiekh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 25 March 2002 18:56 > > To: MadProfessor; 'Richard Forgo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Impact of Free ORACLE > > > > > > At 05:29 PM 3/25/2002 -0600, MadProfessor wrote: > > >Here's a couple I've dug up: > > > > > >http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020117/sfth035_1.html > > >http://www.devx.com/judgingjava/articles/javaone/report2.asp (Flat out > > >SAYS ORACLE IS FREE!) > > > > I took a quick look at this site and I don't see anything that says the > > database is free... > > I can find Oracle 9iAS downloadable for free... that's the Application > > Server, you then need the Database to go with it... > > > > Moreover, I wouldn't trust using it for production... Oracle has a > > history > > of changing the pricing on people and claiming that you have to pay more > > > > money if you want to continue using their product because the licensing > > changed... > > > > They may give it to you free this year, next year you'll find yourself > > with > > a large bill! > > > > Just read these: > > http://www.idg.net.nz/pressroom.nsf/UNID/8DCAE02D7BD89FD6CC256B8100822FB > > 0!opendocument > > http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/175426.html > > http://www.crmdaily.com/perl/story/16852.html > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-864135.html > > > > There are many more... > > > > I think MySql is here to stay even if Larry should decide to give it all > > > > away for free... database, applications etc. There are always the > > consulting and support fees, and anyone who worked with Oracle Apps > > knows > > you can't do a damn thing without support! ..And if you want to take > > less > > than 5 years to implement the system you better have consultants on > > board > > and a staff of 2 people per module in house! > > > > $0.02 as someone else put it... > > > > Francesca > > > > > > >And of course, let's not forget > > >http://www.oracle.com (Just go to downloads, register your info and try > > > > >downloading ANYTHING) > > > > > > > > >I PROMISE YOU, oh non believers, that you'll believe me after you read > > >those articles, and then try downloading 9i from Oracle. You don't even > > > > >have to download it, just start it and watch it go! Cheers, > > >VJ MPZ > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Richard Forgo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:02 PM > > >To: 'MadProfessor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: Impact of Free ORACLE > > > > > > > > >Did Big Larry go open source? This is news to me. If you have more > > >details, please provide the list a link to share that info. > > > > > >Rik Forgo > > >JIST3 > > >Army Test & Training Investment Conference (ATTIC) > > >Diverse Technologies Corp. > > >(c) 410.852.7420 > > >(h) 410.859.8474 > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: MadProfessor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:48 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Impact of Free ORACLE > > > > > >Just curious what everyone thinks the impact on MySQL will be now that > > >Oracle is free? > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Before posting, please check: > > > http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) > > > http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) > > > > > >To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Trouble unsubscribing? 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