Franklin, the "basic relational rules"
(http://hometown.aol.com/mbaddenda/art120.html,
http://www.cs.sfu.ca/CC/354/zaiane/material/notes/Chapter7/node1.html) say,
decompose relationships like your artists & groups to separate tables, and
your example fits right in.

PB

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From: "Franklin Williams Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:44 PM
Subject: self relation query help


> I have a table with names in it where the names can function as 1 of 2
things -
> either an artist or a group. In order to make searching easy I wished to
keep
> these names in one table. EG: searching for artist name, whether a group
or
> soloist you would have to search only one table. The problem arises if the
> person wishes to get the names of the artists in the group or an artist
also
> performs in multiple groups. I thought a self relationship of sorts solved
this
> but then I could not figure out how to write the query. For instance the
> simplest query is: show me all the groups and artists in each group, or
Show me
> the artists names in group U2. Easy if groups and artist names were in 2
tables,
> however...
>
> A table                                      B table
> ----------------------------     ------------------------------
> id            Name                id     grp_id     art_id
> ----------------------------     ------------------------------
> 1             Joe                  1       2          1
> 2              U2                  2       2          3
> 3             Mike                 3       2          4
> 4             John               ------------------------------
> 5             Jane
> ---------------------------
>
> In the above sample data, table B is a "join" of sorts where the A.id
functions
> as both the B.grp_id and B.art_id. EG:  B.grp_id = A.id AND B.art_id =
A.id
> I thought I had come up with a nifty little trick (using the same id in
> different fields to designate a distinction ) but alas.....
> I can only select one column to get the names of the group and artists. I
> thought nested selects would solve this - maybe not - but no nested
selects in
> mysql anyway.
> So..can this be done with this design or must I split the artists and
groups
> into separate tables, forcing a multiple table search? I hoped column
alias
> would solve this but I could not make it work using them. Confused?
Good...so am
> I! Thanks in advance for any help
>
> Franklin Williams
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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