Hello Paul

Many thanks.  I won't try that again, then.

John



In article <p05111b50ba3f391357f4@[192.168.0.33]>, Paul DuBois wrote:
> At 12:37 +0000 1/6/03, John Morrison wrote:
> >Hello everyone
> >
> >I am developing an application with MySQL v3.23.33 (MyISAM tables) using
> >Microsoft Visual Basic and ODBC v3.520.6019.0.
> >
> >My OS is MS Windows 2000
> >
> >I have just had an interesting issue crop up concerning gaps in autonumbering.
> >
> >In the interests of better normalisation I decided to divide one table's data
> >between two tables.  So I created another table and copied selected rows into
> >it.
> >
> >This would make for more complicated SQL queries so, until I was sure the SQL
> >would be manageable I did not initially delete the redundant rows in the first
> >table.  I just put them out of reach of the application by renumbering their
> >autonum data so they could be restored later if need be. This was simple
> >because, since the autonum column was signed, I just renumbered the 
> >appropriate
> >rows by giving them a minus sign.
> 
> This is an invalid use of an AUTO_INCREMENT column; such columns are
> intended only for use with positive values.  Attempts to use other values
> result in trouble, as you've found.  This is not brokenness of MySQL's
> part.
> 
> >   However, this had an (to me) unexpected
> >result.  The application appeared still to work OK except that autonum was
> >broken in the table with the renumbered rows.
> >
> >I added one more row to this table and its autonum column was assigned the
> >maximum signed INT value of 2.147 billion, (it should have been 73) preventing
> >any further inserts into the table.
> >
> >I did not immediately realise where the problem lay and I dropped and rebuilt
> >the table from an earlier MySQLdump, but to no effect.  When I finally deleted
> >the rows with negative primary key autonum values and dumped and rebuilt the
> >table again, autonum worked normally once more.  Somehow the gaps in the
> >autonum series confused the autonum allocation.
> >
> >I feel that gaps of similar size could arise from the block deletion of rows
> >and that this could be an issue.
> >
> >I have not heard of this before, is it an issue?
> >
> >For information, the entire series of ID numbers was as follows...
> >
> >-70, -69, -68, -67, -66, -63, -62, -61, -59, -58, 1, through 57, 60, 64, 65,
> >71, 72
> >
> >John Morrison
> 
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