On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 07:26, Matt D. Robinson wrote: > As I said before, I'm trying to help figure out what's broken. > If it can be fixed, then I'm all for it (and I'm doing rebuilds > now to try and see what happened). > > I don't believe in "put up or shut up" -- if it's broken, someone > should say something, and people (including me) should try and help > fix it. If open source and/or open project work revolved around > "put up or shut up" perspectives, much less would get done and > people would be afraid to give any feedback whatsoever. > > Thanks for your enthusiastic response, however. > > --Matt > > On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Mike Matsuzaki wrote: > |>Hey, I got an idea. > |> > |>Make your own Howto guide! > |> > |>Jarod's guide has been a life-saving resource for many of us. If you > |>have any better ideas where to start. Put up or shut up. > |> > |>Mike
To put this to rest, I did not mean that constructive criticism or advice is not welcomed. All I'm saying is instead of complaining of things that don't work, you should do some research first. As you know, tracking down and fixing problems require time. I am not a developer here, but I know all of the heroes here have real jobs that pay real bills. Updating HOWTO guides for every scenerio is probably low on their priority list. If something does not work right, you can browse the forums and mailing lists, discuss the issues with the developers, heck you can even provide some suggestions on how to make it work. But saying to remove something because it doesn't work for you is a little extreme. When I said "put up or shut up" I was referring to what you just figured out. HELP solve the problem. Just complaining and suggesting to remove an important resource for many does not help solve the problem. It would make matters worse. If Jarod didn't have thick skin, and a super hero cape, he could've listened to you and where would we all be? I would be in deep poo-poo. I am a happy mythtv user for 10 months. I've been getting an itch to try FC3. But with the wife happily watching all the Smallville, CSI-*, and Law and Order episodes until her heart's content, I DARE NOT try FC3 until later. This is a perfect example of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it." Aloha Mike Matsuzaki > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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