> Andrew said:
> 
> >I would say its consumed a lot more than a few hours. And I'm a software 
> >engineer with a fair bit of linux experience. How many non-software 
> >engineers get it working?
> >
> >Finally, thanks to those people who replied, it gives me (some) hope.
> >
> >-- Andrew
> 
> I'm most definitely a non-software engineer.  I'm a bit of a geek, but no 
> software engineer ;-)
> 
> When I first set about making a MythTV system it took me about a week's worth 
> of evenings (until 2 or 3am) just getting my hardware working.  Actually 
> configuring mythtv took very little time compared to that, but maybe that was 
> because I was spending all the rest of my free time reading documentation.
> 
> The first big mystery to solve was how to configure the xmltv grabber.  Back 
> in October last year it didn't parse the list of channels and present 
> possible matches like it does now.
> 
> I made a fatal mistake earlier this year and wiped out my system with an rm 
> -rf /* so had to reinstall everything.  It only took me a couple of evenings 
> to put everything right (I lost my backups too), and that included Gentoo 
> compile time!
> 
> You talk about Mythtv like it's a commercial product.  It isn't.  So you can 
> only be a user, not a 'consumer'.  If you're not prepared to put in a bit of 
> time getting it to work you really have no reason to complain.  I mean it's 
> not as if you paid for anything is it? ;-)
> 
> Now my system is all set up it just WORKS.  My wife can use it - even to the 
> point where she can solve problems (like jiggling a DVB-T recorded show to 
> work properly when the mpeg decoder doesn't like the stream) herself.  She's 
> no kind of superuser, so that must mean mythtv is user-friendly in operation. 
>  The backend machine has, to the best of my knowledge never hung or crashed 
> for months.  Uptime is in the region of 3 months now, and the last time I 
> rebooted was for something non-myth related (adding a new HDD).
> 
> I agree that Myth could be easier to set up for newbies, but even if you look 
> at Windows MCE (eech), that asks you a bunch of questions at setup time - 
> which you may or may not answer correctly depending on what you know about.  
> Answer a setup question wrongly and it's not going to work!
> 
> As far as what you have to do to get NTL Digital working on your system, 
> there can't be many channels which the Radio Times grabber doesn't list - the 
> channel_ids file in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt is 257 lines long!  So you 
> have to add channels yourself and map them to the right NTL channel numbers, 
> but if you start with the channels you **actually watch** then add the rest 
> bit by bit later, it'll be a much nicer job.
> 
> Justin.
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