On 12/10/05, Joe Buckshin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/12/05, Ciaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/10/05, David Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry I should rephrase what I wrote: > > > > > > I believe that when people mention WAP, they usually mean both WML and > > > the WAP protocol (or if not WML then some kind of HTML that is not > > > HTML compatible. It uses different tags for accepting inputs etc.) > > > > > > Basically what I am looking for is an HTML theme that displays the > > > same information that the WAP (whatever is in the WAP directory) with > > > the same dimensions. It looks perfect on Firefox which is able to read > > > the WAP page. > > > > > > Ideally I would just copy the HTML page and readjust it for the phone > > > browser, but since the WAP theme (ie. the wap theme directory) looks > > > like it would fit nicely on my mobile screen, I would like to make the > > > code HTML compatible & sent over IP (ie. not WAP). > > > > > > Does this make any sense? Any ideas? > > > Is there perhaps a quick way to pear down the HTML theme to something > > > similar to whats in the WAP theme, or is this not so easy? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > David > > > > > > > > > On 10/12/05, Ciaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 12/10/05, David Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am trying to convert the Mythweb Mobile WAP theme so that it is > > > > > usable on mobile devices that do not support WAP (chtml) (ie. I-Mode) > > > > I'm not quite sure where this confusion comes from, but WAP is a > > > > transmission protocol rather than a display meta-language, but the > > > > code seems to have this apparent confusion too :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Essentially I need the same format (table layout, sizes, menus) as the > > > > > WAP version, without all the WAP code. I am trying to get things off > > > > > the ground, but I can't find where MythWEB identifies itself as a WAP > > > > > page. > > > > MythWeb appears to support two mobile styles, the first one is 'WML' > > > > and the second is 'HTML'. Both can be sent over WAP or over IP > > > > (GPRS). It is dependant on the formats the mobile device can support. > > > > > > > > > > Is there a .WML file that is being sent? How does the WAP theme > > > > > identify itself as a WAP theme? > > > > > > > > The mobile device sends HTTP-ACCEPT + User-Agent headers up to the > > > > mythweb application. Mythweb interprets these two headers and decides > > > > a) Is this a mobile device and b) What type of content should we send > > > > down. > > > > > > > > i.e. If the User-Agent = Nokia something-or-other it says, okey we > > > > have a mobile device, and if there is a HTTP-ACCEPT header of > > > > text/html, it will send down the Mobile HTML theme otherwise it will > > > > send down the WML theme.... i've submitted a patch to SVN/Trac that > > > > fixes the case where the mobile device submits a HTTP-ACCEPT of */* so > > > > doesn't get sent the html, when it should. > > > > > > > > > > Am I making any sense? > > > > > > > > Does this help at all ? [disclaimer: this understanding has come from > > > > taking apart the code in SVN, I may be wrong, I didn't write it :) ] > > > > > Hmm, apparently I wasn't that clear, there is already a mobile-html > > theme [I believe] that looks great on my phone, (which happens to > > support both html + wml anyway) layout wise I think its pretty close > > to the wml theme. So you should be able to start with the php that > > generates that and convert it to generate C-Html (since you mentioned > > i-mode I assume thats what you really want?) > > > > Unfortunately I've not got access to the code right now to check that > > what I'm saying is true, but I think what I'm saying is correct, > > hopefully someone who knows more than me can say for sure :) > > > > -- > > - Ciaran > > (I now have far too many G-Mail invites available, anyone who wants > > one, gets one) > > _______________________________________________ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > MythWeb Theme rundown: > > "Default" > Outputs: HTML, JavaScript, CSS > Intended Browsers: Full blown browsers (IE, FireFox, etc) > > "vxml" > Outputs: VoiceXML > Intended Browsers: MythPhone > > "wap" > Outputs: HTML > Intended Browsers: newer Mobile phones (openwave 6+, opera for mobile) and > PDAs > > "wml" > Outputs: WML > Intended Browsers: Mobile phone (which do not support html or xhtml-mp) > > The wap theme is misnamed. As stated above, WAP is a protocol just > like HTTP. I would suggest creating a new theme (perhaps chtml would > be a proper name) and using the wap theme as a guide. You will also > need to modify the browser detection code in init.php and mobile.php > to detect your phone from the user agent and to define your new theme. > One problem is that there is no mime type for chtml (in most cases > text/html is used) so using htp_accept probably will not work. Also, > I would suggest starting with an emulator rather that using the phone > to develop and debug. > > As an aside, I'd like to see what people think about using the WURFL > project http://wurfl.sourceforge.net to detect browser features. We > should be able to detect standard browsers, mobiles, and most > supported capabilities. >
A damn sight more succint than my ramblings have been about this issue ;) People seem to be veryconfused about the WAP theme [and understandably so!]. Perhaps this will finally clear it up ;) - Ciaran > Joe > _______________________________________________ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > -- - Ciaran (I now have far too many G-Mail invites available, anyone who wants one, gets one) _______________________________________________ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
