I received an email from OSH last night saying thy detected a problem with the 
board on Friday and sent me corrected gerber files -- something about a CAM 
setting being wrong. I'm unclear if they are sending replacement boards or if 
the problem was on their end or my end. 

Again, I've gone through the same process with other board houses and if there 
was a problem with the files being produced by DipTrace, no one has said. 
Pretty weird.


Rich Cini
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> On Sep 8, 2014, at 12:50 AM, Andrew Bingham <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I know PCBCart looks at the files because they found where some of my 
> silkscreen text overlapped an adjacent footprint on the 6x0x board, and they 
> were also able to move it for me.
> 
>> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 5:06:19 AM UTC-7, AltairManRich wrote:
>> I agree. I've ordered three boards from PCBcart, including the PIC board, 
>> and they were perfect.  
>> 
>> 
>> Rich Cini
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 6, 2014, at 10:23 PM, John Coffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rich,
>>> 
>>> I expect that if FreeDFM passed the boards, the Gerber files were     okay 
>>> and the problem lies with the vendor.  Ouch.
>>> 
>>> I think I would rate vendors "Advanced Circuits" > "PCBcart" in that order, 
>>> and add that all the boards I have ordered from PCBcart have been perfect.  
>>> This includes the 4-layer Z180 Mark IV (2 production runs from PCBcart).
>>> 
>>> --John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 09/06/2014 02:31 PM, Richard Cini wrote:
>>>> John —
>>>> 
>>>>  I agree, and I do the same thing — the “FreeDFM” service is from 
>>>> Advanced. Works great. No errors reported on this design. AlexanderJ ran 
>>>> the submitted Gerbers through a tool on OSH and they came out perfectly. 
>>>> So, I have no idea what happened. I did discover that the ECB connector 
>>>> holes are too small as well. I checked and I used 0.055/0.032, same as the 
>>>> KiCad library. Must be a tooling error too.
>>>> 
>>>> Rich,
>>>> 
>>>> I expect that if FreeDFM passed the boards, the Gerber files were okay and 
>>>> the problem lies with the vendor.  Ouch.
>>>> 
>>>> I think I would rate vendors "Advanced Circuits" > "PCBcart" in that 
>>>> order, and add that all the boards I have ordered from PCBcart have been 
>>>> perfect.  This includes the 4-layer Z180 Mark IV (2 production runs from 
>>>> PCBcart).
>>>> 
>>>> --John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/06/2014 02:31 PM, Richard Cini wrote:
>>>>> John —
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I agree, and I do the same thing — the “FreeDFM” service is from 
>>>>> Advanced. Works great. No errors reported on this design. AlexanderJ ran 
>>>>> the submitted Gerbers through a tool on OSH and they came out perfectly. 
>>>>> So, I have no idea what happened. I did discover that the ECB connector 
>>>>> holes are too small as well. I checked and I used 0.055/0.032, same as 
>>>>> the KiCad library. Must be a tooling error too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rich Cini
>>>>> Collector of Classic Computers
>>>>> Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
>>>>> http://www.classiccmp.org/cini
>>>>> http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: John Coffman <[email protected]>
>>>>> Reply-To: N8VEM-Post <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, September 6, 2014 at 4:20 PM
>>>>> To: N8VEM-Post <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [N8VEM: 18629] ADIO prototypes received - all bad
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rich,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry to hear of the fabrication problems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew got me in the habit of passing all design files, in a single zip, 
>>>>> through the free Design Rule Checker available through Advanced Circuits 
>>>>> (www.4pcb.com).  The checker is available from the home page.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I usually get complaints about the silkscreen layer; their program is 
>>>>> quite picky.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 09/06/2014 08:49 AM, Richard Cini wrote:
>>>>>> All —
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I received the ADIO board prototypes today from OSH Park and all boards 
>>>>>> are bad. While they are a pretty color purple, the Gerbers must have 
>>>>>> gotten messed up when interpreted by their system so only 20% of the 
>>>>>> board has copper or plated holes. I’ve opened a ticket to see what 
>>>>>> happened. I’ve used DipTrace Gerber output with other board houses with 
>>>>>> no problem, so I’m at a loss right now as to what happened.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  At least with these boards I can check for component spacing and fit…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Very disappointed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Collector of Classic Computers
>>>>>> Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
>>>>>> http://www.classiccmp.org/cini
>>>>>> http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32
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