Hi Lars, I agree with you 100%. If I, as a user (techie or not), looking at my own machines, I'd expect some sort of summary; I wouldn't care about anyone else's or even the network as a whole. As you quite rightly said Lars, the 'overall health' needs to be aimed at the users "select machines". NLG v1, however, has no concept of machine ownership, it simply shows the entire Nagios estate.
This isn't a fault, that's how it was designed. It is, however, also where it falls down, and the need for a solution targeted to a different audience becomes apparent, hence the v2 project. I designed v1 originally for my own use, to present users who have signed up to my services as an ISP with an overview of my network and how well (or badly) it was performing. Users didn't have machines or services of their own; they just wanted to be able to see if network problems were affecting the servers they may use. Since I released it to the Nagios community last year, a wider audience have seen the potential for using NLG in ways it wasn't originally designed, which is fantastic because it means I get the chance to build on the success of the project, and hopefully design and build a solution that more and more people will find useful :-) The "host-filter" hack was indeed a hack as many people were requesting the same thing, but with the current code architecture it wasn't possible to do a permanent fix, and it was indeed a hack put in simply to tide people over until v2 is ready. Andy > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released > From: Lars Stavholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Andy Shellam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "Giles Coochey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net" <nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Date: 19/02/2008 7:01 > > > Andy Shellam wrote: > > Hi Giles, > > > > Thanks for your comments. The 'Network Health' page is designed to reflect > > the status of the network as a whole which, I agree, can be confusing when > > host-specific filters are specified. An example scenario of the reasoning > > behind this is: > > > > You're viewing the 'network health' page and select the "down hosts only" > > filter. All the hosts in this filter will be down, thus rendering the > > network "100% down", which obviously looks bad. > > Of course it does, and as an example of the situation at hand, > pretty useless. > > How about viewing this problem from the users point of view? > And I mean the non-techie user. Then it would be quite obvious > that Network Health should reflect the network health of the > users machines, otherwise you would have a bit of explaining > to do to a bunch of not so happy users, that would look at you > with those eyes saying "now there's a real techie, he hasn't > got a clue, let's get out of here". > > When using the "down hosts only filter", one might consider not > letting this reflect on the overall Network Health at all, > actually. IMHO the Network Health should show the summary of > health for the users select machines only, at all times, > filter or not. > > Other than that, NLG is a brilliant solution, badly needed > out there (here at least), and I've been looking forward to > try it out with nagios 3.x. Thanks for the effort Andy! > > Just my 2c worth > > Cheers > /Lars > > > NLG v2 is going to be designed to work better with users, permissions and > > groups and will be better suited to those who don't want a simple "network > > overview" and would like to restrict what different users and groups can > > see. > > > > In terms of licensing, clause 4c states that if the work, ie. NLG, is > > publicly displayed then all copyright notices must be kept intact, including > > the author's name, designated company, title of the work and URL. Therefore > > if you're providing access to NLG through a publicly-available URL or > > website, the copyright notice must be left intact, otherwise if it is only > > available to a set number of users (e.g. through an internal URL or > > intranet) I'm happy for the copyright notice to be removed. > > > > Regards, > > > > Andy > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released > >> From: Giles Coochey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> Date: 18/02/2008 15:59 > >> > >> > >> Andy, > >> > >> I thought I'd take a look at your project, as I have some interest in > > having some sort of dynamic portal which customers can query and I've seen > > your project surface time-and-time again on this list. > >> I've implemented the 'hack' to limit which hosts a particular user can > > see, but notice that they still see the "Overall Network Health" still shows > > the values for all hosts & services, rather than those in the currently > > selected filter. > >> It would be much better if the granularity for this tool followed the > > 'Nagios way' and used the contact group for all visibility. Unfortunately > > this is very important for our environment. > >> In terms of the license, what if I want to remove all references to Nagios > > Looking Glass, your name etc... from the portal interface? Is that going to > > be an issue? I'm not talking about removing any copyright or license > > information from the source files itself, just the customer facing side. > >> Thanks > >> > >> Giles > >> > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy > > Shellam > >> Sent: 18 February 2008 13:06 > >> To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> Subject: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released > >> > >> The Nagios Looking Glass is pleased to announce the availability of NLG > > 1.1.0 beta 1. > >> This is the first release in the 1.1 series that makes NLG compatible with > > Nagios 3 (tested with Nagios 3.0rc2) while maintaining compatibility with > > Nagios 2.x. > >> The major changes in this version against 1.0.6 are: > >> * Added configuration option to change the location of cached files > > client-side (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/337) > >> * Locking for cache files (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/336) > >> * comments.dat and downtime.dat no longer available (change these to > > status.dat in server/sync-files/s3_config.inc.php) > > (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/333) > >> * Allow override of default timezone > > (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/214) > >> * Ability to disable client-side caching > > (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/126) > >> The new release > > can be downloaded from www.nagioslookingglass.co.uk/downloads. > >> Regards, > >> > >> Andy Shellam > >> Lead Developer > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> Defy all challenges. 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