I never said I wouldn't try new things...I've been in the biz for 23 years and I have a closet full of new stuff that I've tried over the years. all I'm saying is I don't like being taken advantage of and with this new LED light and all the hype about the CND lamp I just feel like it's nothing more than a way to sell new lamps. If the Brisa lamp works to cure the Shellac, why all the hoopla from CND to purchase a new $200 light? I don'tk now about the rest of you, but I work hard for my money and there are a lot of things I need more than a new lamp. The only thing I see different about the new CND lamp is the timer and more bulbs. I'd rather buy the product than the lamp and unfortunately the cost of the CND light and the LED lights are going to keep a lot lof techs from being able to offer these services. Many of us are independent, sole operators or booth renters so we can buy what we want, but what about the techs who work FOR someone? If they can't convince them to buy a quality acrylic or gel or even sanitize the pedi chairs how in the heck are they going to convince them that they should buy a $300 light?
In addition, I'm torqued off that I can't even GET the Shellac here. The suppliers have open stock, no salon racks and no lamps. No one knows when they will be in. It's frustrating to talk something up to your clients, schedule appointments around this product and then have to say 'gee, I'm sorry I don't have it, don't know when I'm gonna get it'. Makes me look like an ass. I too prefer to use one line, but when the company I want to use doesn't make what I want or need, I have to do something. Personally, I don't leave my products out where clients can see them. I keep all my L&P in a basket and don't take it out til I've filed and am ready to prep and apply product. Same with Gel and mani/pedi products. As far as my clients know Shellac & Gelish are just a new kind of hybrid polish color. That's all they need to know. They know Axxium and ECO are also, just in a different container. I have found that it is easier to use a whole mani/pedi lline than an entire acrylic line. I just can't justify the cost of Scrubfresh vs. Acetone when I know I get the same results with both of them. My clients care more about the finished product and how they can go 3-4 weeks with no service break down than they do about the label on the container. And I care about my bottom line. Unless and until I have issues with Shellac or Gelish et al, I'll keep using the lights I have. And in the immortal words of Forrest Gump "That's all I have to say 'bout that." Sherri On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:49 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > AHhhh a smart progressive woman very nice post ; ) keep moving and > exploring what's best for the individual I am a little shocked at some the > the previous posts strange that as a tech you would not want to progress > with new products rather then stick to the same ole thing its a big world > out there full of options my clients never question me if I say its great > then that's all they need to know . > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Bonn <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:50:25 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: NailTech:: mixing products/Lamps n stuff > > We old techs, oops, I mean more experienced techs learned long ago a > couple of things. > When you are starting out you follow the product line, to a T!!!!!! > Then as you realize, Oh Wow, I have this down, then you start > thinking, well, what about this, what about that, and you start > playing around. Start experimenting. > > We start slow, because we know that the only way a company will back > us up is that we cannot mix products!!!!! We knew that, but as a > group of individuals who are creative, we just couldn't resist. > > And also, we realized that educators that work for companies CANNOT > help you unless you follow their product guidelines. They work for a > certain company and this company has spent thousands of dollars to > invent, test and market a product. They cannot give us advice on why > their product is having problems unless you have used all of their > products by their standards. > > We have also learned that educators in the past have not been totally > honest and we saw right thru them. "you have lifting problems, it is > because you are using Brand X hand sanitizer, not our hand > sanitizer".Yea right. > > Also, you have to realize that educators may not be allowed to tell > you that yes, as a nail tech, I know you can use this companies blah > blah, but that may put their job at risk. > > I have 5 different gels that I have used, and I use a 4-9watt bulb > light. Does it work? Yes. I think where the issues are is the > timing. I have learned that I use brand X, it takes a minute longer, > Brand Y will dull if I keep it in too long, Brand Z timing is perfect. > > I appreciate the companies educators on this list that help us > out. Also I appreciate the educators that can give us extra info on > other brands that is not their own. I understand both > positions. Been there Done That. > > The issue is the lamps. We do not know. This is all new to us, and > sooner or later we will figure it out like we did when ac started, > and gels started. It will come. We need to weed it out. Just like > us old timers, we have seen it all, and have learned. JMHO...diana > from indiana > > > > > > > > > > At 08:24 PM 5/25/2010, you wrote: > >I know that we've been told to use the manufacturer's lights with > >their product, and I understand their reasoning. I just don't buy it. > > > >We were told for years not to mix product or something horrible like > >service break down or worse would happen. > > > >Well, some of us rebels (Me, Lynette, Maggie, Dianna et al) did it > >anyway and guess what happened? Nothing! Imagine that! > > > >What we discovered is service break down has a lot more to do with a > >tech's SKILL than the products used. > > > >I use Something Wonderful with all my enhancement products, I use > >Naillite universal liquid with all my powders, I use acetone to soak > >off and alcohol to cleanse. I use acetone to prep too. > > > >I have 2 brisa lamps that are collecting dust because the 4 bulb > >tunnel lights that I got from star nail for $40 years ago work > >better! I use those lamps with axxium, IBD, NSI, Akzents and brisa. > >No problems! > > > >I'm not willing to spend $200 on another lamp when the one I have > >works just fine. And after looking for LED lights and seeing what > >they sell for from the chinese distributors (anywhere from $20 to > >$65) plus shipping there is no way I'm willing to pay 4, 5 or 6 > >times markup. No way. > > > >Now, if I sell gel, traditional or soak off, I'm going to want to > >sell my lights, but I'd rather sell my GEL! Make the lights more > >reasonable and I'll buy one, but I'm not going to be taken advantage > >of or duped into buying something because "they" say I have to! > > > >JMTC > > > >Sherri > >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >Groups "NailTech" group. > >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >[email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > >For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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