I use a stick I am seeing dryspots too
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From: Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]>
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 06:26:19 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NailTech:: dry nails/Shellac

Thanks Laura, I feel I am gentle. I do use a metal cuticle pusher but the 
product comes off so easy. I will try a wooden one and see if that helps. Since 
Shellac is part polish I would think acetone would soak through the layers 
and reach the nail pretty quick. The others are gel and it isn't as easy for 
the 
acetone to soak through. Gelish and Eco take more effort to push off and I have 
to buff off the last little bit. Just trying to figure out the difference here. 
I wonder if Shellac would come off in 5 min? I haven't tried to take it off 
sooner then 10.

Angie Wingerter




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From: Laura Merzetti <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 8:10:12 AM
Subject: RE: NailTech:: dry nails/Shellac


I sent a note to Doug Schoon last week – there was a thread on the board about 
the same subject.  I’ve been using Shellac and haven’t been noticing the white 
spots (yet) but wanted his take on the problem in case I started to experience 
it with my clients. 

 
His response:
 
Hi Laura,
My guess is that this is caused by improper removal. If the white spots are due 
to surface roughness, that is likely to be the reason. Improper removal 
roughens 
the surface and makes it appear whitish. Proper removal is gentle removal and 
the process should cause no damage if done correctly.  Let them know that 
forcing the product from the nail is the mostly likely reason for damage.
Please feel free to share this info.
Doug 
 
Laura Merzetti
 
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
holly cliffe
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NailTech:: dry nails/Shellac
 
I have also noticed this on most of my shellac clients and I was thinking about 
posting about it and forgot.  Thanks for bringing this up.....hopefully we'll 
get some insights.
 
Holly Cliffe
Vancouver, BC
On 29-Sep-10, at 6:53 PM, Angela R Wingerter wrote:


I have a client that has been wearing Shellac for 4 weeks now. She comes in 
every two weeks, so today was her third time getting Shellac. I have been doing 
the cotton and foil method. I have been putting cuticle oil on her nails right 
after I push the product off. Her nails are getting the dry spots like you 
guys have talked about before. I have another client that has been getting the 
Gelish and the Eco about the same amount of time and her nails doesn't seem to 
be drying out. Has anyone else seen this with Shellac vs the others or could it 
be that the client with the dry nails are just prone to dryness? I  am not 
happy 
with what I am seeing. If it is going to do this to the nails they might as 
well 
wear gels and have all the extra strength. And if it is Shellac that is doing 
it, then I will be selling my stock. Anyone interested?
 
Angie Wingerter
 
 

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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 8:26:25 PM
Subject: Re: NailTech:: Gelish: Your Vote For Removal Method*Also* Foundation 
Base App...
 
Yes there is big hope... I have been soaking off the old fashioned way since 
day 
one .  I use one of the little soak off trays from Nailite with a wet cotton 
balls in it.  
1>. bufff shine off first hand and place in tray and make sure cotton is 
against 
nail
2> file and shape next hand and buff off shine.
3> back to first hand, remove one finger at a time and push off product with 
cuticle stick
4>put second hand in to soak
5> file and shape, lightly buff  first hand, scrub fresh <or what ever cleanser 
you use>
6< remove second hand one finger at a time push off product, and finish buff 
and 
cleanse.
7> base coat, color , top, coat, remove dispersion layer
8>sugar scrub hand and forarm, 
9>send to wash
10> nice  lotion massage
All done and ready to leave in about 45 min.  Thrilled to death that ther is no 
reason not to go after those always lost keys in the bottom of their bag,..
We havent had any take more than 10 min to soak off.  The time it took that 
long 
was a couple nails that had an issue and were buffed and retop coated. so there 
was more on them.  The frenchs soak off so fast that I am still amazed, I sill 
double check myself that I didnt miss something.. This stuff is so GREAT.
I am using ECO, Shellac, Gelish, and a few of IBD soak off gels. IBD has one in 
a bottle comming but their pots of soak off are fine as long as you use the 
base 
and top from the new lines...  
I really totally agree with Rhonda though this IS and atrificial service so 
hide 
the files, and electreic files it is all about preception.

Happy Happy nail days
Dawn
[email protected]
Lancaster,PA
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: NailTech:: Gelish: Your Vote For Removal Method*Also* Foundation 
Base App...
Thank you Maggie!!!  I am going to try the old fashioned way and see what 
happens. Yipeee..there is hope!!!
 
And thank you everyone who has replied with your help and suggestions!!!
 
If anyone else has different techniques,pretty please share them : )
 
Della
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/29/2010 5:15:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
Time, [email protected] writes:
I would just as soon drill it off, but let's face it-- most of the clients who 
are in love with these products would prefer to avoid any part of the process 
that makes them think it's a "fake nail product," they'd rather have it soaked 
off.
> 
>I have been using the individually wrapped (which makes me think of one of the 
>old Foster Farms chickens commercials, which makes me laugh) -- acetone soaked 
>cotton ball, wrapped in foil-- method. I find doing this means letting them 
>soak 
>for 15 minutes, then scraping the product off with a cuticle pusher. It works 
>well enough. BUT one of my clients has taken to soaking it off herself at home 
>the night before her appointments and SHE made the discovery that if you soak 
>it 
>the old fashioned way-- with your fingertips in a bowl of acetone, it slides 
>right off in 10 minutes or less! So that's the way we're doing it now.
> 
>Just make sure you buff the shine off the top coat first.
>Maggie Franklin:
>Owner & Artist, The Art of Nailz, Visalia CA
> "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time."
>Maggie Rants [and rav...@nails Magazine 
>Facebook
>
>
>--- On Wed, 9/29/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>Subject: NailTech:: Gelish: Your Vote For Removal Method*Also* Foundation Base 
>Application For Fill
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:19 AM
> 
>Hello Friends,
> 
>I have a client coming in tomorrow with Gelish on. I would appreciate a vote 
>of 
>which you all prefer as
>far as buffing/filing the product off to apply new, or the soak off method?  
>Also how much time it takes you for both methods.  I soaked 3 of mine off 
>yesterday with a timer and I am disappointed that it is not quicker to remove. 
>I 
>filled half the Gelish off and it took 15 minutes to remove plus buffing to 
>finish : (     I am grimacing
>at the length of time this might take tomorrow : ( 
> 
>Also, do you apply foundation base over the entire nail for a fill, or just 
>the 
>growth area.
> 
>Thanks A Million!
> 
> 
>Della
>West Side Indianapolis
>Brownsburg Area
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