On 2012-11-13, at 16:43, "Wessels, Duane" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The membership list (specifically the email addresses that are subscribed > to [email protected]) is now updated automatically (daily) based > on the ARO database maintained by AMS. So if you are a NANOG member you > will be subscribed to that list. I see. I don't remember saying yes to a question like "may we send you random mail and subscribe you to lists without asking first", which may be something to think about. > Your participation in that mailing list might have changed recently if you > just became a NANOG member, or your NANOG membership expired, or if your > email address changed from when you first joined. I became a member during the Dallas meeting. I guess that's somewhat recent. > "You can not unsubscribe" because, as I said, the mailman list is fed > directly from ARO now. So if went to the mailman web page and unsubscribed, > you would be automatically re-subscribed the next day. The ARO system > does not have a way to let you be a NANOG member and indicate that you > don't want to be subscribed to [email protected]. If there is a > need for such a feature from the membership, we can ask AMS to add it. I like Rich's suggestion that the most Mailman should do is send invitations to subscribe, not to force-subscribe and re-subscribe if people opt-out. But this is all a bit philosophical; there has been no mail on that list beyond the initial subscription notification, so it's not exactly a real problem. Unwanted monthly invitations would actually be more annoying than a forced subscription with no list traffic. Further to Kevin's comments: - "can not" is clumsy if not illiterate, but perhaps I'm just unaware of amerenglish conventions here - "you have been added to facilitate conversation among members of NANOG" makes little sense to me. Conversations between NANOG members surely happen on the main list if they are operational, or on nanog-futures if they relate to meta-issues. I don't understand what this members list is for. But note that this is not a real complaint (at least not until annoying threads pop up on that list that I am unable to escape from in a reasonable way). Here's some candidate text to replace the members join spam that at least addresses the grammar problems. "Welcome to the [email protected] mailing list. You have been automatically subscribed to this list because you are a NANOG member. If you unsubscribe, you will be periodically re-subscribed automatically because your address in on the NANOG membership list. If this seems like a ridiculous state of affairs, blame Duane Wessels." (Last sentence intended as humour; this parenthetical annotation included because apparently I didn't get enough sleep last night and attempts at levity in these circumstances are prone to be interpreted as snake venom.) Joe _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
