Obviously not intended to work this way.  There's some bugs to work
out in despamming. Merit is on it.  Majordomo was in place for a
decade plus so getting everything to match perfectly is a small
challenge.  So far, so good, and good to know about this. Thanks.

Marty



On 4/25/08, Patrick W. Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>
> > It appears that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is using a challenge/response
> > system
> > (see below).  This is an extremely bad idea -- so bad that I'm
> > surprised
> > that NANOG personnel aren't already well aware of it.  (It's common
> > knowledge among most of those working in the anti-spam field.)
>
> You didn't read the actual e-mail below, did you?  "To confirm that
> you sent the message below, simply reply to this email message."  So I
> guess your message did not get confirmed.... :)
>
> I'd call it a bad joke, but not a barrier to interaction with the
> admins.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
>
> > See, for example:
> >
> >     Challenge-Response Anti-Spam Systems Considered Harmful
> >     http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/challenge-response.html
> >
> > Vastly superior anti-spam methods which do not result in outbound
> > abuse are available, well-documented, and easily implemented.
> > If NANOG needs assistance with that, I'm sure any number of us
> > would be happy to help out.  But the C/R mechanism should be
> > disabled immediately, before it's used to abuse third parties.
> >
> > ---Rsk
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from NANOG Admins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----
> >
> >> From: NANOG Admins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Please confirm (XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
> >> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:59:37 UTC
> >>
> >>
> >> This is an automated message.
> >>
> >> The message you sent (attached below) requires confirmation
> >> before it can be delivered.  To confirm that you sent the
> >> message below, simply reply to this email message.  You
> >> do not need to modify anything in this message.  Once this is
> >> done, your original email will be forwarded and no more
> >> confirmations will be necessary for future messages.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Original Message Follows ---
> >>
> >> Received: from taos.firemountain.net ([207.114.3.54])
> >> Received: from squonk.gsp.org (bltmd-207.114.17.169.dsl.charm.net
> >> [207.114.17.169])
> >> Received: from avatar.gsp.org (avatar.gsp.org [192.168.0.11])
> >> Received: from avatar.gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> >> Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:56:11 -0400
> >> From: Rich Kulawiec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: In re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Never seen before! Gucci Prada
> >> Chanel,
> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>
> >> (Original message truncated)
> >>
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
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