y'all

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 09:43:54AM -0400, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Todd Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > randy,
> >
> >  On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:12:24PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
> >  > [ moved to futures ]
> 
> [ snip ]
> 
> >  marty:  did you submit or recruit any talk on anything at all that you
> >  think was misjudged by the PC? did you suggest to someone on the PC
> >  that we recruit a specific talk that we didn't follow up on?  if so,
> >  please let me know immediately and we'll try to get more on the ball
> >  for nanog 44 in LA.
> 
> 
> I think most people see this as a deflection and will take it for

defensive much?  :-) i hope the mythical "most people" see it for the
constructive engagement that it was.

> that
> so I'm not going to address any inference that I alone am responsible
> for v6 content at NANOG.

"alone"?  you read words that aren't there.  you read intent that
isn't there.  my questions stand.  whether you choose to answer them
or not is up to you.

i *explicitly* said that you sniping without contributing to the
program is fine and expected.  we get a lot of it and, believe it or
not, it's appreciated.  we know that our audience is busy doing their
day jobs and not always able to do anything to make the program
better.  that doesn't mean they shouldn't provide feedback, whether
constructive or not, as i you have done.

what i tried to do is get you to provide some constructive feedback
about what ipv6-related topics you think are relevant and who might be
able to provide talks about those.  you skipped answering that
question, too so i pose it again here in the hopes of getting
something useful out of this interchange.  it's probably a vain hope,
but i'm trying! 

> If you would like me to champion ipv6 talks and ipv6 keynotes for
> NANOG, you can always put me on the PC. 

did you nominate yourself?  did anyone else nominate you?  there is an
open slot that i just posted information about to the nanog-announce
list, as you are no doubt aware.  if you're serious about working on
the program and you think you have something to contribute, i would
expect to see a nomination for you shortly.

for everyone else's benefit:  this is a bit of a red herring.  you
don't need to be on the program committee in order to contribute to
the conference.  there are lots of ways you can make the program
better:

1) quibble, snipe, gripe about what you don't like (like what we're
doing here);

2) offer constructive feedback about what you would rather see (bonus
points for who might present it);

3) recruit a talk from someone you know who would be good;

4) prepare and submit a talk about something you care about, know
about, and think is relevant;

5) stand for the program committee.

> Let me know when I start. 

if you nominate yourself and you're selected by the steering
committee, you would start at nanog 43 in brooklyn.

> I'm
> probably willing to put up with more than Jordi was so drop me a line.

i don't know what this means.

t.

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