Meaning fixing Puck or the divorce of Outages from Puck?


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "virendra rode via NANOG" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: "virendra rode" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2025 1:19:28 PM
Subject: Re: outages list badly broken, flooding messages

I want to sincerely apologize for the current state, this situation
should not have unfolded in this manner. Our original intention was to
conduct a gradual migration to minimize any disruption to the list.
However, given the persistent challenges we’ve encountered with PUCK
(Mailman), we are now opting for a decisive big bang cutover to ensure
we move forward effectively and efficiently.

Thank you for your understanding as we navigate this transition.

I will provide additional updates soon.

/vrode


On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 12:26 -0400, Glenn McGurrin via NANOG wrote:
> I've already received 76 copies of
> "Re: [Outages-discussion] Lists dead - after action report?"
> and continue receiving them every few minutes, apologies, 77 copies
> now, 
> this is clearly badly broken, I do understand this is a volunteer run
> list, but normally I do want to receive notifications as it's
> generally 
> important if it's on this list, but currently I'm looking at having
> to 
> block the list as it's sending my notifications nuts.
> 
> 
> Also as an aside, I'd hesitated offering this before, not feeling
> like I 
> was known enough or had enough standing in the community for it to be
> accepted and used, but if help is needed figuring out the issues, or
> if 
> it would help the community to have a backup list, running mailman or
> potentially for added diversity running a different mailing list 
> software, it's been a bit but I've used sympa before as well as
> mailman 
> to run lists, I'm happy to host a secondary backup list(s) to offer
> some 
> extra redundancy to the community (or if people really wanted to have
> someone take over the main I'm willing to, but I'm not asking for
> that 
> or expecting anyone wants that), I know some mention has been made in
> a 
> thread somewhere about adding redundancy to the list but nothing
> about 
> the form of that redundancy.
> 
> FWIW up to 96 copies now as I write this, it's been going on for
> about 
> an hour and a half at this point, I held of sending anything
> initially 
> hoping it would be jumped on and at least the sending shut down even
> if 
> that meant taking any remaining online part of the list down for now 
> until there was time to fix it, as I get it, it's Sunday, people have
> plans, etc, at this point all I'd ask to be expedited is shutting it 
> down until such time as people have time to fix it, not for people to
> abandon plans on a Sunday to root cause this and fully fix it.
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