I'll dig into it. There are some very strong opinions about how we should solve some of our technical issues, but I've always had a huge amount of respect for Dr Clayton and his work. Even if I disagree in the end, it's worth a look to me.
Thank you. On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 5:24 PM John Levine via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote: > It appears that Josh Reynolds via NANOG <[email protected]> said: > >Interesting. Do you have any links about this? I was talking to him a few > >months back about some things. > > You can read about it in the IETF DKIM working group and its > ietf-dkim mailing list. > > Let's just say that Mike and I disagree about its likely utility. > > R's, > John > > > > > > >Thanks > > > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 5:16 PM Michael Thomas via NANOG < > >[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> On 8/19/25 3:13 PM, Josh Reynolds via NANOG wrote: > >> > Holdup. What did I miss about Richard Clayton? > >> > >> If it's the same Richard Clayton as the one I think it is, he's off on a > >> useless adventure to reinvent DKIM for the hell of it, for one. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 5:10 PM Christopher Morrow via NANOG < > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 5:54 PM Barry Shein via NANOG > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Are there any good sources breaking down spam (et al) behavior? > >> >> <snip> > >> >> > >> >>> But my question is whether anyone is already doing this? > >> >>> > >> >> I think you want to find Suresh and the SpamHaus folks (at least) > >> >> (they are different orgs with slightly different views) > >> >> > >> >> On the past I'd also have said: "And Richard Clayton" but :( <sad > panda> > >> >> There's been a bunch of presentation work on these things over the > >> years... > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> NANOG mailing list > >> >> > >> >> > >> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/ZSBVGKR3JOINGH436SYPRCGZRF3AC7C6/ > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > NANOG mailing list > >> > > >> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/LLIBXT44AKEXEXV5676ALIEJ5F6J7QIM/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NANOG mailing list > >> > >> > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/OPCTBGUR5QJ2CJNJG2JTQ2AC34RNYZOY/ > >_______________________________________________ > >NANOG mailing list > > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/VSGFJSJJWFVRRKHS2REORT47SDXYNMOZ/ > > > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/2IQXMKKNHBDDQVZCCFXT5AO76G2MT6SY/ _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/YGS6BD2Y4L4Z6SFLOZV6PQAYR5HRIHMX/
