We have two POP's and a colo in Detroit. One in Southfield, one in Troy, both on the North side of Detroit.
FNSI -> http://www.fnsi.net If anyone is looking for reliable access from a profitable regional player, I'll volunteer. :) K Paul Timmins <paul@timmins To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .net> cc: Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was owner-nanog@m RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) erit.edu 05/30/2002 08:00 PM As far as I know, the following national providers exist in Detroit: (This is by no means, a complete list, and some of these aren't "Big Name" providers, but less likely to go under than John Q Random ISP) Verio Winstar XO AT&T Qwest Covad Level 3 SBC I've heard rumors of speakeasy.net, which I think resells internap I'm sure there's a few other national networks, these are just the ones I have heard of off the top of my head. -Paul On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 19:27, Brian wrote: > > Surprised there isnt much connectivity in the Detroit area, I mean it is > Motor City and all, I would think tons of manufacturing palnts all needing > telecom of some sort or other.. > > Bri > > On Thu, 30 May 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: > > > > > > > Clearly anyone in your market is buying from someone outside of your market. > > The fees associated with reliability (if available) are a function of your > > geography. Large providers are concentrating on the markets that are making > > them the most money. > > > > If you get a few networks in your area that want to save money on the cost > > of reliability you can run a couple of circuits to the next large market and > > try to knit together a reliable network and divide the costs that way. > > > > My guess is that with more large providers on a profit-centered basis you > > won't see the same kind of pricing equality you have been seeing between > > Tier 1 and Tier N markets anymore. > > > > Deepak Jain > > AiNET > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > John Palmer > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:39 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under > > (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) > > > > > > > > Its just that they aren't local and there is no need to pay for > > a circuit all the way to Chicago. It seems that so many providers > > have moved out of Macomb county. Anyone have any experience with > > BigNet? We are talking to them now > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:42 PM > > To: John Palmer > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under > > (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) > > > > > > > Who can one rely on for connectivity? In general and in the Detroit > > area? > > > I put out a request for bids on T-1's and all the national providers > > were > > > way too high... > > > > Haven't you just answered your own question? I guess if you think > > reliable service is too expensive, you're not in the market for reliable > > service, no? > > > > -Bill > > > > > > >