For everyones knowledge yesterdays AT&T outage was not really an outage but a Route-Reflection FUBAR on their Chicago link. -- Manolo Hernandez - Network Administrator Dialtone Internet - Extremely Fast Linux Web Servers phone://954-581-0097 fax://954-581-7629 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dialtone.com "The only source of knowledge is experience." - A. Einstein