On Sunday, Mar 2, 2003, at 14:06 America/Vancouver, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It doesnt cost a million dollars to have access to a RR, its somewhat
less! You pay for your domains you pay for your IPs you pay for your
ASN you pay for your SSL, so why be shocked you pay a little for this
too? And if everyone filters your prefixes that will be operational
value enough to join!

Because it provides me *no* service what so ever.

Then don't use it. Surely this is not rocket science.

If it provides no service to me and the guy next block and another little
ISP that is announcing some prefixes and a few large ISPs that announce
quite a few prefixes you wont get the data that you need. I am sure you get
the idea.

Some people seem to have the idea that RADB-like services are only useful if every operator uses them, and every operator publishes accurate information. In my experience, that is not the case.


The most common usefulness I have experienced out of the IRR is as an automated mechanism for publishing policy to adjoining ASes. Examples are BGP-speaking customers instructing their providers on how to filter their advertisements, and ASes filtering advertisements from their peers (which does happen, even if it's not common in the US). Whether or not non-adjoining ASes use the IRR at all, or use it well, is not relevant to this application.

Generating route filters from the IRR via a small lump of script has the potential to be cheaper, quicker, more efficient and less customer-enraging than the common alternative approach of opening six different tickets with the NOC and sacrificing small animals for three weeks until the updates are made.


Joe


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