> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel Py [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:16 PM
> To: Jeroen Massar
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: North America not interested in IP V6
> 
> > Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > It has a timeline (slides 47-50) showing the US falling behind
> > for at least 3 years... come on US show what you are good for :)
> 
> Show me where there is money to make with IPv6 first :-) 
> There are some
> exceptions, but here v6 is somehow like ISDN: I Still Don't Need.
> 
> Michel.
> 
Christian Huitema of Microsoft presented on IPv6 at our Catalyst conference last 
month.  He noted that Microsoft had a very difficult time creating xBox live due to 
issues with IPv4/NAT, which is one of the reasons they are pushing for IPv6 as the 
basis for future collaborative/peer-to-peer applications (for example, 3degrees).  I 
believe Sony is also IPv6 enabling their products for the same reason.

For these services to truly scale you've got be able to have true peer-to-peer 
computing.  Right now, I'm not able to directly connect to my neighbor's computer to 
play a game if we are both on home LANs.  I'm not able to directly connect to my PC at 
home when I'm on the road.  I can't accept incoming phone calls to my netmeeting 
client without static configuration of my NAT gateway (same for an IP softphone).  It 
would be a configuration nightmare to get four Vonage phones each with their own phone 
number.  Christian provided a wonderful demonstration of a future interactive video 
application that would be difficult to scale if proxy/NAT services got in the way.   

There are lots of things that just don't work, and lots of opportunities for making 
money with IPv6.  My own personal opinion is that over the next 5-10 year everything 
will come out of the box with IPv6 capabilities, making it fairly straightforward to 
turn on.  I doubt we'll see much acceptance in the enterprise space before then, but 
there are significant opportunities to bring additional services into the home and 
serve those on home networks if we can eliminate NAT.

As one person noted in response to Christian's speech.  If there is no addressing 
shortage, why do I have to pay $75 a month for a DSL connection with a static IP 
address when a floating IP address only costs me $40 per month?

Just my .02c
irwin

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