See http://www.public-root.com for an alternative to the ICANN monopoly. Those folks are very concerned with security.
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? > > On 16 Jan 2005 at 21:31, Elmar K. Bins wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Allen Simpson) wrote: > > > > > While the Association of Trustworthy ISPs idea has some merit, we've > > > not been too successful in self-organizing lately. ISP/C? > > > > I thought we already had built such a thing, currently covered by ICANN. > > let's think outside the box. > > there's no reason that nanog (or anyone willing to run > a mailing list) couldn't create an ad hoc > decentralized Trustworthy ISP/Root service. heck, > such a thing may even encourage more active > participation in nanog. having a shared group > identity where the rubber meets the road is very > powerful. it's the underlying motivator behind the > nanog, xBSD, GPL, torrent, tor, (pick your non- > hierarchical community driven project), etc. clans. > > there's also no reason that this has to replace ICANN. > and it would likely have the exact result on existing > entities that you mention below - improved > trustworthiness. > > > peace > > > > But well...life changes everything, and for some (or many) or us, this > > association doesn't seem so trustworthy anymore. Maybe it would be better > > to improve trustworthiness of the existing authorities. I believe there > > is still much room for participation, not to mention political issues > > you simply cannot counter on a technical level. > > > > > > > At the moment, I'm concerned whether we have trustworthy TLD operators. > > > > One can never know what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe Verysign > > is on the issue, maybe not. I believe, there are at least three VS > > people on this list who could address this. I don't know whether they > > are allowed to. > > > > > > > It's been about 24 hours, it is well-known that the domain has been > > > hijacked, we've heard directly from the domain owner and operator, > > > but the TLD servers are still pointing to the hijacker. > > > > By chance - how is the press coverage of this incident? Has anybody > > read anything in the (online) papers? Unfortunately I haven't been > > able to follow the newsboards intensely this week-end, but Germany > > seems very quiet about this. > > > > Yours, > > Elmar. > > > >