On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 07:29:44PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > John Levine wrote: > >>Face it, 7D is dead; and even if overlays had not arrived, cell > >>phones would have killed it. Once you learn to think 10D, it's > >>trivial. > > > >Oh, you ignorant rednecks.* Even my cell phone has 7D dialing and > >it'll be a century before overlays arrive where I live. > > > >The reason that it makes sense for an ISP to warn its customers about > >surprise toll calls is that toll rates have gotten so low that for the > >most part, we don't worry about them. Due to the peculiar > >telegeography in my area, a 7D call within my area code could be > >local, intra-LATA toll, or inter-LATA toll. But the most expensive of > >those is 8 cents/min so for voice calls, I don't care, and I really > > Duh. I pay less for an international trans-atlantic call for premium > voice minutes in retail (US$0.04/minute). Wholesale I get the same > minute for less than 2 cents (US$). A 64kbit/s transparent ISDN call > on the same path costs 3 cents (US$). And I'm in Switzerland. So it > seems to be cheaper for me to call you than it is for you to call someone > in the next LATA.
And people wonder why the ILECs are sitting on fat wads of cash? I can get US48 LD for $.02/min. I've found it cheaper sending calls this way then paying for an unlimited plan. Most people in the US can get unlimited LD plans on their POTS service for around $60/mo (with most taxes, etc... included). Regular POTS service can be had for around $14/mo (no frills, no dtmf, etc..) around here at the most cut rate discount plans. When i cancelled my Vonage service, they were willing to to offer me service for $5 or $6/mo to keep me as a customer. I've found that connecting directly to the PSTN via POTS to be quite expensive compared to most of the alternatives out there, I think it's only a matter of time before one of the ILECS (probally one of the non-major CO-OPs or consortiums) switches over to unlimited domestic plans to capture the LD, as most people don't use enough on an unlimited plan to justify it. - jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from [EMAIL PROTECTED] clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.