On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > "I told them dudes to forklift their network" is hardly productive. > > IPv6 is not a forklift upgrade. agreed, it's a measured engineered decision hopefully. backed by financial and prudent engineering decisions. that wasn't the tone of the orignial comment though, which was: "Yea, I told them to just do it" which is tantamount to 'forklift your network you dummies'. > > > Showing, if folks can't find it themselves, that there is a business > case > > that would justify a few million dollar upgrade is... > > Again, it is cheaper to ease into IPv6 rather than waiting until > it hutrts so bad that you have a business case for a million dollar > spend. Start by making sure that your engineers get some IPv6 training sure, most folks are doing this... (or atleast quite a few are) and at a certain time it's time to go from 'research' to 'production'. At that time it'd be prudent to address the financial reasons to 'go production', which is: "who's going to pay for this? What customer demand is there for this? uhm... why should I jeopardize my network for this now?" > > Hopefully other folks can make their > > beancounters understand that v6 is going to happen regardless of their > > wishes for it NOT to happen due to upgrade costs. > > > The time to prepare is now. > agreed, some of the reason I asked a month ago about content providers :) also some of the reason I then said: "perhaps shim6 and multihoming is important to operators, better pay attention!" (I'm certainly not the only one saying these, I just don't want to drag other folks down with me :) ) > When I read the Geoff Huston's response to Tony Hain's > analysis here: > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_8-3/ipv4.html > I don't see him saying that we should do nothing. There > seems to be general consensus among these guys that > the time for action is now. If you want the IPv6 transition > to be painless for your company, then you need to get > planning and get IPv6 in your test labs today. (and finding a business case that flies with management to actually do something higher in priority than all the other daily work)