> Not directly aimed at William: As others have said before (and I  
> finally listened) PLEASE take this discussion to the shim6 list.

        there are some reasons why i'd rather have the discussion here...
        ) IETF IPR and legal restraints on postings
        ) shim6 is a protocol design working group, not an operational wg
                * the IETF has always done operations poorly, it seems worse 
these days.
        ) there are enough folks on both that they can "represent" to shim6 
list as needed/desired


--bill

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