In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pekka Savola writes:
>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In other words - what is the business case for deploying this proposed
>> solution?  I may be able to get things deployed at $WORK by arguing that
>> it's The Right Thing To Do, but at most shops an ROI calculation needs
>> to be attached to get movement....
>
>Exactly.  If $OTHER_FOLKS don't deploy it, cases like Panix may not 
>really be avoided.
>
>I think that's what folks proposing perfect -- but practically 
>undeployable -- security solutions are missing.
>

That is, of course, why I asked the question -- I'm trying to 
understand the actual failure modes and feasible fixes.  I agree that 
many of the solutions proposed thus far are hard to deploy; some 
colleagues and I are working on variants that we think are deployable.  
But we need data first.

                --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb


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