> > Oh geez, here we go again...  Search the archives and
> > read until you're content.  It's a non-thread.  This
> > horse isn't only dead, it's not even a grease spot on
> >  the road any more. :-(
> 
> I quite agree, which is why I trived to cover the
> philosophical part  from both sides. Now, how about some
> solutions that came about since our  last discussion that
> was nothing BUT philosophy? 


You can't get there from here.

scott

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