> (Disclaimer: we're neither a Tier 1 or 2.  And most of the routes we receive 
> via
> a regional provider that treats us *very* nicely - mostly because we have them
> by the short-and-curlies.  They piss us off too much, we turn off the phones 
> in
> their NOC. ;)

        er... a typo?  should be...  "... we turn ON the phones in their NOC."

--bill

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