On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:58:34AM +1000, Matthew Sullivan wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 05:02:47PM -0400, Todd Vierling wrote:
>>> If the point of the technology is to add a degree of anonymity, >>> you can be pretty sure that a marker expressly designed to state >>> the message "Hi, I'm anonymous!" will never be a standard feature >>> of said technology. That's a pretty obvious non-starter. >> Which begs the original question of this thread which I started: >> with that said, how exactly does one filter this technology? > Of course SORBS' position is actually this - if you are allowing > Trojan traffic over the Tor network you will get listed (regardless > of whether the Trojans can talk to port 25 or not).... How an open proxy that will not connect to port 25 is relevant for an *email* blacklist is beyond me. > ...and for what it's worth, I have no problems with anonymous > networks for idealistic reasons, however they are always abused, > they will continue to be abused, Tor is being abused, and I should > be able to allow or deny traffic into my networks as I see fit.... > All of my discussions with Tor people have indicated [they] do not > think I should have the right to deny traffic based on IP address, > and that I should find other methods of authenticating traffic into > my networks. Isn't it rather that they think that filtering on the base of IP address is broken in today's Internet, even if tor didn't exist? Open proxies, trojans, multi-user computers, dynamic IPs, ... all this makes that substituting IP address for people is very, very, imprecise. -- Lionel
