On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Wed, 23 May 2007, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > http://www.slate.com/id/2166749/fr/podcast/ > > > >Downloading it now. > > > >John Markoff just called me for the NYT piece. Odd that it's just hitting > >the news now, two weeks later. > > I wonder, does this mean Estonia is now more likely to act/re-act to its > own homegrown miscreants which attack systems in other countries after > seeing the impact it had in their own country? Or is this going to remain > a case of the "bad guys" are always in some other country, not mine.
I just now got from a 6 hours beer fest with ISP/CERT/military/etc. guys who have been working on these attacks on Estonian infrastructure for the past 3 weeks here in Tallinn.. so if I make less sense than usual, please forgive me. Beer good. Sitting with these folks for the past week, I got so impressed with the abuse handling work they are doing that even I, who had a very negative opinion of Estonia and cyber-crime, completely changed my mind. Their CERT is *extremely* responsive, their ISPs are all talking and cooperating on abuse and security (and drinking beer). Things are very different from what they were even just a year ago. Even their Police force is clued. If anyone has issues in Estonia, I'd strongly urge you to contact the Estonian CERT at www.cert.ee, and you most likely won't get disappointed. A lot of good people over here. Gadi.