On 8/17/07, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I'm pushing an agenda in the open source world to add > > > some concept of locality, with the purpose of moving traffic off ISP > > > networks when I can. I think the user will be just as happy or > > > happier, and folks pushing large optics will certainly be.
This is badly needed in my humble opinion; regarding the wireless LAN case described, it's true that this behaviour would be technically suboptimal, but interestingly the real reason for implementing it would be maintained - economics. After all, the network operator (the owner of the wireless LAN) isn't consuming any more upstream as a result. > > > When you hear stories like the Icelandic ISP who discovered that P2P was > > 80% of their submarine bandwidth and promptly implemented P2P > > throttling, I think that the open source P2P will be driven to it by > > their user demand. Yes. An important factor in future design will be "network friendliness/responsibility". .. or we could start talking about how Australian ISPs are madly throttling > P2P traffic. Not just because of its impact on international trunks, > but their POP/wholesale DSL infrastructure method just makes P2P even > between clients on the same ISP mostly horrible. Similar to the pre-LLU, BT IPStream ops in the UK. Charging flat rates to customers and paying per-bit to wholesalers is an obvious economic problem; possibly even more expensive to localise the p2p traffic, if the price of wholesale access bits is greater than peering/transit ones!