No, a true routing loop will transit several hops and end back up at the same 
routers. A bouncing route between 2 routers is usually a directly connected 
route on an interface that goes down thereby "pulling" the route with out a 
nail down route it will send unkown route back out its default gateway.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07/18/2008 10:25 PM AST
To: Guy Shields
Cc: nanog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop



Isn't that what a routing loop is, when it loops back out to the
transit/interface from which it entered?

Paul

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:07 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is not a routing loop. It is simply a route that was not tied down via a 
> static route to NULL with a weight of 254.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07/18/2008 06:57 PM AST
> To: "William Pitcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Ubiquity<->Mzima routing loop
>
>
>
> I'd like to rip on Mzima as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure how
> they could "fix" this routing loop, shy of some creative ACLs.
>
> You should try contacting Ubiquity, as this traceroute looks like an
> issue on their (Mzima's customer's) side.
>
> Paul Wall
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:27 PM, William Pitcock
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can someone at Ubiquity or Mzima fix this routing loop:
>>
>> traceroute to hg.atheme.org (72.37.225.164), 30 hops max, 40 byte
>> packets
>>  1  64.62.134.193  12.402 ms  12.370 ms  12.363 ms
>>  2  ge5-0.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (206.223.119.62)  16.003 ms  15.985 ms
>> 15.964 ms
>>  3  ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  14.139 ms  14.858
>> ms  14.838 ms
>>  4  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  15.875 ms  15.854 ms
>> 16.497 ms
>>  5  ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  14.747 ms  14.763
>> ms  14.745 ms
>>  6  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  16.405 ms  8.773 ms
>> 8.758 ms
>>  7  ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  9.831 ms * *
>>  8  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  4.417 ms  4.403 ms
>> 4.381 ms
>>  9  * * *
>> 10  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  4.293 ms  4.933 ms
>> 4.914 ms
>> 11  * * *
>> 12  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  14.527 ms  14.526 ms
>> 14.438 ms
>> 13  * * *
>> 14  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  14.352 ms  14.335 ms
>> 3.770 ms
>> 15  * * *
>> 16  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  3.684 ms  13.897 ms
>> 13.897 ms
>> 17  * * *
>> 18  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  8.599 ms  8.581 ms
>> 8.668 ms
>> 19  * * ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  8.246 ms
>> 20  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  8.584 ms  8.565 ms
>> 8.545 ms
>> 21  * * ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  8.119 ms
>> 22  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  8.456 ms  8.931 ms
>> 8.913 ms
>> 23  * ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  6.049 ms *
>> 24  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  15.862 ms  15.754 ms
>> 15.736 ms
>> 25  ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  7.132 ms *  7.092
>> ms
>> 26  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  15.293 ms  15.998 ms
>> 10.752 ms
>> 27  ge0-ubiquity.cust.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.158)  5.353 ms  5.336
>> ms *
>> 28  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  3.800 ms  3.854 ms
>> 3.823 ms
>> 29  * * *
>> 30  ge0-12.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (72.37.148.157)  3.228 ms  4.426 ms
>> 13.019 ms
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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