On hotmail's defense at least their support contacts will respond to your 
emails. It may take a few rounds of proving that they are 'blackholing' your 
email and them saying 'no were not'..but after a few times of that you know 
exactly what to say when submitting a ticket to them (ie I sent this email to 
your testing account at xx:xx pm, I cc'ed my address x...@hotmail.com and it 
wasn't received and here are the logs showing your servers accepted the 
email.). 

-r


-----Original Message-----
From: Erik (Caneris) [mailto:erik_l...@caneris.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:11 PM
To: Joe Abley; Micheal Patterson
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Yahoo and their mail filters..

Ditto. They appear to use some strange form of greylisting combined with 
blocking. What seems to help is SPF and PTRs that match the EHLO your MTAs will 
send. We didn't implement Domain Keys / DKIM. 

On a related note, don't get me started on Hotmail. They used to (still do?) 
silently swallow mail into a black hole after accepting it. No NDR, no spam 
folder, just good ol' mail shredding without anyone knowing. Again, SPF and 
PTRs seem to help. 

Oh yeah, make sure you're not sending spam to them. That might help too. ;)

Erik
________________________________________
From: Joe Abley [jab...@hopcount.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:41 PM
To: Micheal Patterson
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

On 24 Feb 2009, at 21:27, Micheal Patterson wrote:

> This may be old news, but I've not been in the list for quite some
> time. At any rate, is anyone else having issues with Yahoo
> blocking / deferring legitimate emails?

Yes. Everybody else.


Joe




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