By the way, even if ARIN (or the community) decides to do *nothing* in case of
a policy violation, clearly the victim will have a better situation to defend
the case in courts, and not rely in the judgement of inexperienced folks that
will know nothing about what is an Internet Resource, BGP, etc., etc.
Regards,
Jordi
El 27/4/19 0:03, "NANOG en nombre de JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG"
<nanog-boun...@nanog.org en nombre de nanog@nanog.org> escribió:
The intent is to clearly state that this is a violation of the policies.
The membership documents/bylaws or the RSA, your account may be closed. I
looked at it when adapting the policy from RIPE to ARIN, don't have this
information right in my mind, but I'm sure it was there.
Otherwise, if needed another policy should state something like "if you
keep violating policies" this and that may happen. This should be something
generic for *any* policy violation not in general. We have this in RIPE and
LACNIC, and I'm also convinced that in APNIC and AFRINIC (still working on
those versions).
Regards,
Jordi
El 26/4/19 23:41, "NANOG en nombre de Jon Lewis" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org
en nombre de jle...@lewis.org> escribió:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019, William Herrin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:41 AM Matt Harris <m...@netfire.net> wrote:
> Can you (or someone else on the list, perhaps even someone who
was involved in voting this down) provide some more details as to why it was
rejected?
>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> As I understand it (someone with better knowledge feel free to
correct me) the proposal was ruled out of scope for ARIN because ARIN registers
numbers, it doesn't
> decide how they're allowed to be routed. ISPs do that.
>
> I personally support the petition. I think the out of scope reasoning
is flawed. By enforcing minimum assignment sizes, ARIN has long acted as a
gatekeeper to the
> routing system, controlling who can and can not participate. For
better or worse, that puts the proposal in scope.
>
> I personally think it's for worse. I oppose the proposal itself. I'd
just as soon ARIN not act as a gatekeeper to BGP and certain don't want to see
it expand that
> role.
Maybe I missed it in the proposal, but I don't see that it actually
says
what ARIN will do other than produce a report "Yep, our expert panel
says
this is hijacked.". What's the expected result (other than the
report)?
i.e. What action is ARIN expected to take after it's determined a route
advertisement is a hijacking that will make a difference?
Anecdotally, ARIN has, in the past, gotten involved in this sort of
thing.
Many years ago, during an acquisition that went sour at the last
minute,
the renegging seller went to ARIN complaining that we were hijacking
his
IP space. ARIN contacted our upstreams and pressured them to pressure
us
to stop advertising the IP space. Perhaps there's no official policy,
and
perhaps they wouldn't do this today without one?
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