Required or not, I've seen a number of networks doing this. At some point 
"single global ASN" became a marketable pitch and folks realized they don't 
actually have to have a single Network to get it.

Matt

(Oops +nanog, sorry Mel + William)

> On May 30, 2019, at 13:10, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Are your sure about your Error #2, where you say "Prefixes from the same AS 
> are not required to have direct connectivity to each other and many do not."? 
> 
> From BGP definitions:
> 
> The AS represents a connected group of one or more blocks of IP addresses, 
> called IP prefixes, that have been assigned to that organization and provides 
> a single routing policy to systems outside the AS.
> 
> “...a connected group..." implies that all the prefixes in an AS must have 
> direct connectivity to each other (direct meaning within the IGP of the AS). 
> I realize that some AS’s have hot backup facilities that they advertise with 
> heavy prefixing, but in my experience, the backup facility must still be 
> interconnected with the rest of the AS, because prefixing doesn’t guarantee 
> no packets will its that border router. 
> 
>  -mel
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 9:54 AM, William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:30 AM Robert Blayzor <rblayzor.b...@inoc.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> On 5/24/19 2:22 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> > Get it? I announce the /24 via both so that you can reach me when there
>>> > is a problem with one or the other. If you drop the /24, you break the
>>> > Internet when my connection to CenturyLink is inoperable. Good job!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It would be dropped only if the origin-as was the same. Your AS and your
>>> carriers aggregate announcement would be from two different origin AS.
>>> At least that's the gist of it...
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>> Error #1: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6996 section 4.
>> 
>> It's permissible to announce to your transits with a private AS which they 
>> remove before passing the announcement to the wider Internet. As a result, 
>> the announcement from each provider will have that provider's origin AS when 
>> you see it even though it's actually from a downstream multihomed customer.
>> 
>> Error #2: An AS is an informative handle, not a route. In routing research 
>> parlance, an identifier not a locator. Prefixes from the same AS are not 
>> required to have direct connectivity to each other and many do not. The 
>> origin AS could solve this by disaggregating the announcement and sending no 
>> covering route, but that's exactly what you DON'T want them to do.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> William Herrin
>> b...@herrin.us
>> https://bill.herrin.us/
> 

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