At 12:40 PM 18-03-09 -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 08:18 AM 18-03-09 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:
It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what
you're looking for...
www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-uijterwaal-asn-mia.ppt
When I look at this more recently, the conclusion still seems to be
valid: we'll run out of 16 bit ASN's somewhere in 2011 to 2013. There
are a lot of unused ASN's out there. Recovering them will postpone the
problem by a few years but it won't solve it. The basic problem with
recovery is how to decide if an ASN is really no longer used/needed.
There is (still) no mechanism to do this.
Henk
Why not go after low lying fruit first? If an ASN was assigned years ago
and hasn't appeared in the RIB for the past year that ASN should be
reclaimed. Send warning emails to the registered contacts as well as to
the assigning LIR and after 3 months - just reclaim it.
How about just nailing everyone who has invalid contact info? That would
certainly be incentive to get it updated. Nothing else seems to work.
-Dan
How about making it financially worth it? RIRs charge for resources - like
IPs and ASNs:
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/charging2009.html
1 ASN = /21 in money terms. It takes me about 3-5 hours of work to track
down and get an old unused ASN to be deallocated. How about updating the
2010 charging model so that LIRs that return ASNs are compensated?
-Hank
