Oh I don't know about that. There's been a pile of high profile incidents which have been associated with "BGP optimisers", affecting connectivity to huge chunks of the internet, world-wide.

It's not unusual for a single incident to have widespread or even global effect, and what with the Internet playing such an important part of the world's economies, it's hard not to be curious about the overall financial impact of this sort of thing.

Nick

Ryan Hamel wrote on 16/07/2019 19:10:
Nowhere near the number as an engineer fat fingering a route. There are ISPs 
that accept routes all the way to /32 or /128, for traffic engineering with 
ease, and/or RTBH.

Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Nick Hilliard
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 11:04 AM
To: Job Snijders <j...@instituut.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Performance metrics used in commercial BGP route optimizers

Job Snijders wrote on 16/07/2019 18:41:
I consider it wholly inappropriate to write-off the countless hours
spend dealing with fallout from "BGP optimizers" and the significant
financial damages we've sustained as "religious arguments".

it would be interesting to see research into the financial losses experienced 
by people and organisations across the internet caused by routing outages 
relating to bgp optimisers.

Nick



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