Had a similar issue where a provider would slap a ~10% "FCC Regulatory Surcharge" (not specified in the contract) on IP transit delivered in Canada. We spent multiple hours trying to resolve the issues. I ended up by de-peering from the three letter name company. They were the only one doing this (out of six Tier1 providers available in the city).
I don't care about paying regulatory stuff. In some places, it's part of the game. I just need my providers to be transparent. If you're selling a full 10G of IP transit at $0.40/Mbps, I expect to receive an invoice for $4000+tx a month, not $4400+tx a month. Eric On Jan 6 2020, at 10:56 am, Siyuan Miao <avel...@misaka.io> wrote: > I've checked my contract and there's a line: > > > If <redacted>’s costs to provide services to Customer increase due to > > reasons beyond <redacted>’s control, including annual escalations imposed > > by facility providers (often referred to as “Facility Cost Recovery > > Surcharges”), <redacted> has the right to increase the fees paid by > > Customer to cover such costs. > > If any local, state, national, international, public or quasi-public > > governmental entity or foreign government or its political subdivision > > imposes any taxes (excluding taxes based on <redacted>’s net income or > > capital or any property taxes), fees, surcharges, or other charges or > > impositions on <redacted> as a result of <redacted>’s sale of Services or > > Customer’s use of Services, Customer shall pay any such impositions > > (“Additional Charges”) and indemnify <redacted> from any liability or > > expense associated with the Additional Charges. Taxes that arise in any > > jurisdiction, including, without limitation, value added, consumption, > > sales, use, excise, access, bypass, franchise, or other taxes, fees, > > duties, charges or surcharges, however designated, imposed on, incident to, > > or based upon the provision, sale or use of the Service. > > Though, I don't think it's okay to pay CRS and property tax for IPT service. > Will try to negotiate with them again. > > Honestly, it's my first time to see these BS. We never have any similar > issues with other providers. > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:29 PM William Herrin <b...@herrin.us > (mailto:b...@herrin.us)> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:40 AM Siyuan Miao <avel...@misaka.io > > (mailto:avel...@misaka.io)> wrote: > > > NANOG, > > > > > > We've recently signed contract of colocation + IP transit with a local > > > provider in Northern Virginia. > > > Co-location services is okay but we found something unusual on our IP > > > transit invoices. > > > - Va Personal Property Tax Recovery (1.8%) > > > - Cost Recovery Surcharge (3%)? > > > We've talked with our providers but they told us: > > > > we use a tax engine that provides the taxes/rates to our services. If > > > > you would like further language on them, please let me know and I will > > > > have some one send that over. > > > Has anyone else ran into this? If this is a legit "surcharge"? > > > Also, IP transit isn't a property, why is there a "Property Tax" for IP > > > transit? > > > > > > > > > Hi Siyuan, > > > > If it's not written in to your contract, it's a breach of contract. Either > > way it's a deceitfully imposed surcharge, not a state tax. Virginia does > > not tax the sale of services like transit and colo. More, the only personal > > property tax I've heard of in Virginia is on motor vehicles. > > Regards, > > Bill Herrin > > > > -- > > William Herrin > > b...@herrin.us (mailto:b...@herrin.us) > > > > https://bill.herrin.us/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
