Out of curiosity, since we aren't affected by this ourselves, I know of cases 
where Cogent has sub-allocated IP space to its customers but which those 
customers originate from their own ASN and then announce to multiple upstream 
providers.

So while the IP space is registered to Cogent and allocated to its customer, 
the AS-path might be something like ^174_456$ but it's entirely possible that 
ARIN would observe it as ^123_456$ instead. Are such IP address blocks affected 
by the suspension?

Best regards,
Martijn

On 1/7/20 5:30 AM, John Curran wrote:
ARIN has suspended service for all Cogent-registered IP address blocks.  
Customers with their own IP blocks blocks that are simply being announced by 
Cogent are not affected.

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


On Jan 6, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io><mailto:r...@tajvar.io> 
wrote:


Yeah this raises a great point - I'm curious how ARIN is differentiating 
between cogent and cogens customers when monitoring for prohibited access. 
Particularly those customers whose IPs belong to and are announced by Cogent.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 10:38 PM Martin Hannigan 
<hanni...@gmail.com<mailto:hanni...@gmail.com>> wrote:

— shifting a side thread


John,

I have no stake in this, so far, but I have a few questions.

Can you define exactly what services have been blocked? IRR/ROA/TLA registry 
updates, etc? Were they blocked ^174 or 174$? This is a precedent AFAIK. I’d 
like to understand consequences. In case I decide to attend Dave’s sales 
training? :-)

Cheers,

-M<



On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:45 John Curran 
<jcur...@arin.net<mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote:
On 22 Sep 2019, at 8:52 AM, Tim Burke <t...@tburke.us<mailto:t...@tburke.us>> 
wrote:

That is just The Cogent Way™, unfortunately. I just had (yet another) Cogent 
rep spam me using an email address that is _only_ used as an ARIN contact, 
trying to sell me bandwidth. When I called him out on it, with 
complia...@arin.net<mailto:complia...@arin.net> CCed, he backpedaled and 
claimed to obtain my information from Google.

ARIN has repeatedly informed Cogent that their use of the ARIN Whois for 
solicitation is contrary to the terms of use and that they must stop.  Despite 
ARIN’s multiple written demands to Cogent to cease these prohibited activities, 
ARIN has continued to receive complaints from registrants that Cogent continues 
to engage in these prohibited solicitation activities.

For this reason, ARIN has suspended Cogent Communications’ use of ARIN’s Whois 
database effective today and continuing for a period of six months.  For 
additional details please refer to 
https://www.arin.net/vault/about_us/corp_docs/20200106_whois_tos_violation.pdf  
  ARIN will restore Cogent’s access to the Whois database at an earlier time if 
Cogent meets certain conditions, including instructing its sales personnel not 
to engage in the prohibited solicitation activities.

Given the otherwise general availability of ARIN Whois, it is quite possible 
that Cogent personnel may evade the suspension via various means and continue 
their solicitation.  If that does occur, please inform us (via 
complia...@arin.net<mailto:complia...@arin.net>), as ARIN is prepared to extend 
the suspension and/or bring appropriate legal action.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers







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