indeed, otherwise thats making the data the critical compnent and voice an add on extra which is not whats going no here :)
On 5/11/20, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > If POTS last mile is available, why complicate it with VoIP? > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> > To: "Nick Edwards" <nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com>, nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:23:36 AM > Subject: Re: alternative to voip gateways > > > Hi Nick > > > Have you considered using CPE DSL routers with VoIP and FXP analog out? > Decentralized. That's what everyone are doing here. Might be free depending > on where you get the CPEs. > > > Or simply getting VoIP handsets. Lots of cheap DECT bases with VoIP. > > > Regards > > > Baldur > > > > > søn. 10. maj 2020 14.51 skrev Nick Edwards < nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com >: > > > On 5/8/20, Baldur Norddahl < baldur.nordd...@gmail.com > wrote: >> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:14 AM Masataka Ohta < >> mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp > wrote: >> >>> >>> Investment for FTTH is 10 times or more than that for plain DSL. >>> >>> >> We are assuming the copper plant is already there otherwise I will >> respectfully disagree. >> >> However the economic is not as simple as you might think. Lets do some >> calculations. >> >> Assume we can build the fiber plant for 1 million USD (*). This fiber can >> >> be depreciated over 25 years. That means we only take USD 40,000/year of >> the company profit. >> >> The copper plant is already there but the DSLAM is missing. Assume USD 100 >> >> per port plus USD 100 per DSL CPE. This equipment can only be depreciated >> >> over 5 years. With 1700 ports this gives USD 68,000/year of the company >> profit. >> > > a 48 port dslam is 2200 (still awaiting cots on line cards for above > mentioned chassis) so its about 45 per port, CPE is about 50 a device > in bulk (inc 4 gb ports, wifi) > > The copper exists, there is no ripping it out > > Due to location RF links are used for data, so no need to give each > cabin "future proof" since unless a carrier will run fibre to us for > 100's miles at their cost - it just aint happenin, the cost is > extremely prohibitive. > >> Not claiming these number are anything but fantasy as I know nothing about >> >> the layout of the project. Just illustrating that sometimes more money now >> >> does not necessary means less profit for a company. >> >> (*) yes 1700 installs could be done for that in optimum circumstances. It >> >> could also be much more expensive, all depending. >> >> Regards, >> >> Baldur >> > > > >
