On 18/Sep/20 11:40, t...@pelican.org wrote:

I've got MACSec deployed for exactly one customer as a point solution.  It 
works once it's in, but the documentation, vendor or otherwise, and choice of 
suitable equipment were fairly sparse.  I certainly wouldn't want to offer it 
at scale.

Encrypted network conversations with customers, I always try to be very clear 
about what they're trying to protect against, and make them think properly 
about trust boundaries.  Sure, I can slap a managed CPE on site if I don't 
already have one and provide overlay encryption - but that doesn't stop a rogue 
engineer on my side from capturing data before it's encrypted.  If what you're 
concerned about is fibre taps, or security flaws in the MPLS 
traffic-segregation model or implementation, that helps.  If you don't want to 
trust me as a service provider not to sniff your traffic in the middle, having 
me encrypt it at the edge really doesn't help - you need to encrypt it 
yourself, or have a different third-party that you do trust do the encryption.

Some people get it, some people are just trying to fill auditor check-boxes ;)

Agreed.

There was a time when the use-case for MACSec was to move banks away from running their own DWDM/FC networks, and letting operators do it.

I'm yet to find a bank willing to do this.

Maybe I'm not paying enough attention.

Mark.

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