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On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:08 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I guess I should have been a bit clearer. > > Yes, what you would be ordering is typically a lit L2 circuit. However, > my experience is that certain carrier salespeople tend to call anything > like this a 'wave'. I have had lots of discussions over the years with > various salespeople about the difference, and yes, it's pretty much always > lit L2. Centurylink (now Lumen) even sells a service they call "Encrypted > Wavelength Service". Not sure how one encrypts light.... > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 1:25 AM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> For small ISPs looking at setting up their first ever presence at an IX >> point, you almost certainly would not be ordering an actual 'wave' (eg: a >> specific DWDM channel on a legacy 10G DWDM platform, handed off to you with >> 1310/LX interfaces at both ends), but lit layer 2 transport service between >> the carrier hotel and your service location. >> >> Pricing for the two types of service can be quite different when you >> request an actual 'wave' from a carrier sales person, vs just lit L2 >> transport capable of large MTUs, QinQ, etc. >> >> The ISP carrying it might take it between those two places as simply a >> vlan trunked through a larger 100G link, as a MPLS circuit, lots of >> possible things. >> >> Unless you happened to be in a happy conjunction of the right place at >> the right time, and an older DWDM system on exactly the same path you >> wanted happened to have an empty channel and ready to go interface cards at >> both ends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 11:12 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < >> li...@packetflux.com> wrote: >> >>> Generally one would order a circuit (aka wave) between your location and >>> the IX fabric at the interchange if you're not at the site you're wanting >>> to peer at. >>> >>> For instance, the network I am the network engineer for has a circuit >>> which terminates into the Seattle IX (SIX) fabric. We don't have any >>> other presence in Seattle (or Washington for that matter) at this point - >>> our circuit connects directly to our port on the Exchange. We're >>> considering adding a similar link to another exchange point somewhere to >>> the east or southeast of us. I haven't looked at the graphs recently, but >>> it's not uncommon for >50% of our traffic to come from the exchange. And >>> yes, we're peered with Hurricane and others there. >>> >>> We're also looking at dropping 1U or so of equipment in so we can pick >>> up some transit as well, but that's a story for a different day about the >>> joys of providing internet in the less populated parts of the country. >>> >>> In your case, it also looks like there are also some peering options at >>> the datacenters you are currently at as well. You may want to do some >>> more research to determine how that might work in your situation. >>> PeeringDB is a good resource along with google searches for "peering 100 >>> Taylor" or "peering austin data foundry" >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:51 PM <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Don’t you have to be there to join? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m in Austin and San Antonio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Aaron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 7:20 PM >>>> *To:* Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> >>>> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: Hurricane Electric AS6939 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://bgp.he.net/AS16527 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You don't appear to be on any IXes. Definitely join some IXes before >>>> buying another 100G of transit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> DFW has a couple and there are some more that are starting up. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> >>>> *To: *nanog@nanog.org >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:29:55 PM >>>> *Subject: *Hurricane Electric AS6939 >>>> >>>> Do y’all like HE for Internet uplink? I’m thinking about using them >>>> for 100gig in Texas. It would be for my eyeballs ISP. We currently have >>>> Spectrum, Telia and Cogent. >>>> >>>> -Aaron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Forrest >>> >> > > -- > - Forrest >