Brandon - 

        Agreed – the key phrase being "within a more limited scope” …

/John

> On 20 Jan 2021, at 1:26 PM, Brandon Martin <lists.na...@monmotha.net> wrote:
> 
> On 1/20/21 12:52 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> 
>> <chuckle>  While route hijacking isn't necessarily an ARIN issue, I will 
>> note that several US law enforcement agencies (FBI & NCIS Cybercrime units) 
>> are quite interested in such events and do investigate them looking for 
>> criminal activity.   
>> 
>> (See 
>> https://pc.nanog.org/static/published/meetings/NANOG77/2108/20191028_Elverson_Your_As_Is_v1.pdf
>>  for details.) 
>> 
> 
> I think the difference is semantic but a very important one nonetheless.
> 
> Announcing a netblock that isn't yours and that you don't have authorization 
> to use to others under the same terms and assumptions as you announce those 
> to which you do hold legitimate rights or otherwise purporting to be a 
> legitimate user of them on what we know as the "public Internet", that is the 
> Internet where numbers are managed by IANA and the relevant RIRs is a "big 
> deal".
> 
> Using numbers in a manner contrary to how they are assigned on the "public 
> Internet" within a more limited scope where everybody agrees that the use of 
> such numbers may be contrary to IANA and relevant RIR assignments is more 
> along the lines of "you operate your network however you want".
> 
> Other things would fall under the same purview.  For example "alternate root" 
> DNS hierarchies with extra TLDs or even TLDs used in contrast to ICANN 
> recommendations would have similar considerations.
> -- 
> Brandon Martin

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