What is interesting is this new deep sea design. In the old days cables had 4 
to 8 pairs max. Now I am seeing Orange talking about 18 pairs and 24 pairs. 
With more widely regeneration.

https://www.orange.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2021/orange-takes-leading-role-us-europe-route-two-new-generation-submarine
[https://www.orange.com/sites/orangecom/files/styles/crop_4_3_large/public/2021-01/Amiti%C3%A9%20Dunant.jpg?h=dcad9be9&itok=ZFfo2VK1]<https://www.orange.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2021/orange-takes-leading-role-us-europe-route-two-new-generation-submarine>
Orange takes a leading role in the US to Europe route with two new generation 
submarine cables linking the East Coast to France | Orange 
Com<https://www.orange.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2021/orange-takes-leading-role-us-europe-route-two-new-generation-submarine>
After the landing of the Dunant cable, a Google project announced back in March 
2020, Orange announces it is now ready for service for its wholesale and 
business customers. With 12 fibre pairs with over 30 Tbps of capacity each, 
multiplying by three the previous generation of transatlantic submarine cables 
capacity. Orange also announces the signature of a partnership on the AMITIÉ 
cable ...
www.orange.com


Regards,

Rdoerick.


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From: Fox, Barbara <b...@ciena.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:52 PM
To: Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.com>; Rod Beck 
<rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>; nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: RE: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair


I asked a submarine guy how much the fibers can carry because this sounded low 
to me.  His response:



it depends on the type of cable. Older cables (with embedded dispersion 
compensation) have a lot less capacity and I have seen some as low as 1Tb/s per 
fiber pair and some as high as 10Tb/s per fiber pair. All newer D+ Cables that 
have been deployed in the last 5 years and will be the only cables deployed 
going forward can easily carry 20Tb/s of capacity per fiber pair. Something 
Like Havfrue can support 22T per fiber pair and there are 8 fiber pairs for a 
total of 176T.



Barbara



From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bfox=ciena....@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mark Tinka
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:13 AM
To: Rod Beck <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair





On 1/27/21 13:39, Rod Beck wrote:

How much spectrum is a half fibre? It must be standardized in some fashion.

It would be based on the amount of capacity each fibre in the overall system 
can carry across a given line system span.

So say a cable system is able to carry 960Gbps per fibre pair, and it has 5 
fibre pairs, that means a half fibre pair purchased by one of the consortium 
members would be 480Gbps.

It is also possible for a consortium member to own a full + a fractional fibre 
pair, e.g., two and a-half fibre pairs. In such a contract, for example, say a 
24 fibre-pair system could carry 1.2Tbps per fibre pair, that member would have 
3Tbps of capacity.

Mark.

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