Hi Joe & Joe,

 

I’m not sure which Joe is the original Joe anymore, but I like this reply 
better than the previous one. 

It feels more informative and more useful to the community.

 

I just stumbled on this article.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-syncing-features-can-be-abused-for-c-c-and-data-exfiltration/

 

Could it be that what the OP observed is link to a browser vulnerability 
started to be exploited recently?

 

Cheers,
Jean

 

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=ddostest...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: February 5, 2021 9:51 AM
To: JoeSox <joe...@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Suspicious IP reporting

 

Much like your banning of an email address is an ability you have with your 
provider (gmail), you should have the same abilities with your cellular 
provider for an IP address. 

I would think (at a minimum) you would be able to negotiate such an action with 
them, perhaps it is time to re-negotiate that contract?

If your simply trying to report an offending IP for brute force stuff perhaps 
the tact you may find more helpful is to ask for a contact at xzy ISP on list, 
versus asking folks to do reporting for you. As well there are like 100s of 
lists to report this to outside of NANOG  

As well, if I am reading this correctly, deployment of devices that have public 
facing IPs and do not have a means to protect themselves is concerning to say 
the least. 

This is about as reckless as putting up a login page without a password and 
crying foul when something gains access that you didn't expect. Again, I do not 
know all of the details of this so I may be way off base with that respect. 

 

If your ability to prevent issues is due to lack of a firewall/control to your 
network, possibly asking for help in mitigating such threats would be better, 
as there are a lot of very well versed/clever folks that help out.

Regards,


-Joe

 

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:17 PM JoeSox <joe...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Ryan,

Thanks but like I said these devices are in moving vehicles ok?

I stated we have a plan but it is ways out.  

FACT: we have a known malicious C&C

FACT: We know what networks it is hitting and the cellular network is the most 
vulnerable, imo.

FACT: this IP is against Verizon terms of service so the way to address it is 
to report it to them as they request.

 

I honestly got what I needed from this thread, thanks. And I thank the 
nonbullies that helped me off list.

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Thank You,

Joe 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:11 PM Ryan Hamel <administra...@rkhtech.org 
<mailto:administra...@rkhtech.org> > wrote:

Joe,

 

It isn’t on Verizon to setup a firewall, especially if you have a direct public 
IP service. The device being attached directly to the Internet (no matter the 
transmission medium), must be able to protect itself. ISPs provide routers 
which function as a NAT/Firewall appliance, to provide a means of safety and 
convenience for them, but also charge you a rental fee.

 

Stick a Cradlepoint router or something in front of your device, if you want an 
external means of protection. Otherwise you’ll need to enable the Windows 
Firewall if it’s a Windows system, or setup iptables on Linux, ipfw/pf on *BSD, 
etc.

 

Ryan

 

From: JoeSox <joe...@gmail.com <mailto:joe...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 5:04 PM
To: r...@rkhtech.org <mailto:r...@rkhtech.org> 
Cc: TJ Trout <t...@pcguys.us <mailto:t...@pcguys.us> >; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org 
<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> >
Subject: Re: Suspicious IP reporting

 

How do I setup a firewall when I am not a Verizon engineer?

There is a firewall via the antivirus and operating system but that's it.

Do you not understand my issue? I thought that is the real problem with the 
online bullies in this thread.


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Thank You,

Joe

 

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ryan Hamel <administra...@rkhtech.org 
<mailto:administra...@rkhtech.org> > wrote:

Joe,

 

The underlying premise here is, “pick your battles”. If you don’t want an IP 
address to access your device in anyway, setup a firewall and properly 
configure it to accept whitelisted traffic only, or just expose a VPN endpoint. 
The Internet is full of both good and bad actors that probe and scan anything 
and everything.

 

While some appreciate the notification here, others will find it annoying. We 
cannot report anything malicious about an IP address on the Internet, unless it 
does harm to us specifically, otherwise it is false reporting and does create 
more noise at the ISP, and waste more time getting to the underlying issue.

 

Ryan

 

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech....@nanog.org 
<mailto:rkhtech....@nanog.org> > On Behalf Of JoeSox
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 4:41 PM
To: TJ Trout <t...@pcguys.us <mailto:t...@pcguys.us> >
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> >
Subject: Re: Suspicious IP reporting

 

Do others see this online bully started by Tom? The leader has spoken so the 
minions follow :)

This list  sometimes LOL

I think if everyone gets off their high horse, the list communication would be 
less noisy for the list veterans.


--

Thank You,

Joe

 

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:36 PM TJ Trout <t...@pcguys.us <mailto:t...@pcguys.us> 
> wrote:

This seems like a highly suspect request coming from a North American network 
operator...? 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:23 AM JoeSox <joe...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

This IP is hitting devices on cellular networks for the past day or so.

  https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/79.124.62.86  

I think this is the info to report it to the ISP.  Any help or if everyone can 
report it, I would be a happy camper.

 

ab...@4cloud.mobi <mailto:ab...@4cloud.mobi> ; ab...@fiberinternet.bg 
<mailto:ab...@fiberinternet.bg> 

 

https://en.asytech.cn/check-ip/79.124.62.25#gsc.tab=0

 

--

Thank You,

Joe

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